Partnership start/end dates in Beach Volleybox

2020-06-06 • 212 views • 4 replies

In Beach Volleybox, unlike in Men/Women, there is no edit option once the partnership is entered. For example, I formed Ekaterina Syrtseva/Alexandra Moiseeva partnership for 2011-2014 and 2016-still according to FIVB database. Although they hadn't played together in FIVB tournaments in 2015 season, they continued to play together in their National Tour. So in order to add the team on Russian Championship 2015, which they won by the way, I had to add 2014-2015 season to their partner section. Now it seems as 3 different periods instead of 1 simple 2011-still.

Also, sometimes the start/end years can be wrong like in Heather Bansley/Brandie Wilkerson. The partnership start is given as 2017 but they played in the 2016 World Tour Finals together and when I added that tournament to database I had to add another partnership between them instead of just fixing the start date 2017 to 2016. Now in Wilkerson's page there is two partnership with Bansley, one is 2016-still and one is 2017-still.

To sum up, there should be a partnership edit button in Beach Volleybox.

Volleybox 276
1 month ago
+1

There is the rest of your suggestions from the chat. I will paste them here and I will consider all of them in free time (maybe next week):

About Beach Volleybox there are couple of issues that I want to point out.

1) There should be a separate World Tour Finals tournament which consists of its editions. In the database, 2019 World Tour Finals is available under the name of 2019 Rome Grand Slam and it seems as one of the editions of Rome Grand Slam. Also, although the database is lack of tournaments, there is another World Tour Finals tournament under the name of 2015 Fort Lauderdale Grand Slam and that tournament belongs to the Fort Lauderdale Grand Slam editions. I think that putting World Tour finals on a same and separate tournament line (like European and World Championships), will be much more accurate, simpler and tidier than this complicated situation.

2) All of the 2019 World Tour tournaments are given as a coefficient rank of 7.00 which is quite absurd. The 1-star event in Budapest where top 50 teams don’t bother to compete for example has exactly same value to the 5-star major event. The difference between those tournaments are similar to the difference between Grand Slams and challengers in tennis. Also coefficient rank of previous years’ World Tour tournaments (2017 etc.) are lesser than their 2019 counterparts. For example 2017 Fort Lauderdale Major (a 5-star event) has a rank of 5.00 which is smaller than even a 1-star 2019 tournament.

https://beach.volleybox.net/men-world-tour-fort-lauderdale-major-2017-o3843

https://beach.volleybox.net/women-world-tour-budapest-2019-o9853

@Sherlock I wanted to add at least the major tournaments for previous years but as I understand from the 2019 tournaments that 5-star major tournaments (Vienna 2019 etc.) are given as a “grand slam” in the database. Grand Slam is a type of tournament that existed in the past but does not exist now. I got confused whether name the tournament as "Major" or "Grand Slam" (consistency is important), hence I haven't add any World Tour events. And also it would be good to be able to select "stars" (5, 4 etc.) while we're adding the tournament.

@Sherlock I think calling the tournaments with their original name is fine, what I say is like the adder of the tournament should be able to select "what-star tournament" the tournament is, in the below window while he was adding the tournament. The "star" information can be given in the "tournament data" section.

@Sherlock Also, what I meant about consistency is that all "Majors" should be called as the same way whether is "Major" or "Grand Slam". I am not really a fan of calling same of them "Grand Slam" and some of them "Major". If Vienna 2019 named as "Vienna Grand Slam 2019", so should others; if it's Vienna Major 2019, then all of them should be Majors. That's all. By the way in couple of years like 2016, there are both "Grand Slam" and "Major" tournaments. So, in my opinion "grand slams" be grand slams and "majors" be majors. Thanks for all your efforts.

Thank you for all suggestions. I saw a lot of data added by you in Beach Volleybox. Thank you for your effort in making this website better.

pedeshtrianAuthor 26 5
1 month ago
+1

@Volleybox Also I want to make a small addition to ranking point issue. The level of tournaments can vary from season to season (i.e. Porec, is a major event until 2017 and it became a 1-star event in 2018) It seems in current status, when we add a new edition of the tournament, the same coefficient ranking value are assigned automatically. That's also one of the reasons that I suggest a "star" option in the "new tournament edition" window.

I think that's all now. Thanks.

Sherlock 273 9
1 month ago
+1

Thanks @pedeshtrian for everything you're doing on the beach volleybox section, it really needed it. By the way, until the modifications are made, if there is something to modify that you can't do, don't hesitate to tell me by message, it is very fast to do.

pedeshtrianAuthor 26 5
1 month ago
+1

Thanks @Sherlock, that will help.

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