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raylightBG 3131 15
7 years ago
-6
Zyta, did any team win many titles without at least two or three best in world players? Name one
ZytaPL 1364 12
7 years ago
+1
HA! Again this thing about Nikolov, the same guy who was already so great and a star, before he came to Trento. You change facts to fit them to your theory.

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statistically is impossible for bad coach to have such long series of wins no matter of luck and players. You all argue with mathematics, which is quite laughable, I would say.

If you want to base your words on stats, show me mathematical formula for this particular situation. Besides no matter of luck and players? Yeah, sure, take away Matey and Juantorena and check what Trento is gonna win then.

And hypocrisy one more time. You telling Pesazi about his arrogance? What about you and your arrogant, ignorant "experts" about us? Next time look at yourself first, darling.

Last edited by Zyta 7 years ago.

pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
+2
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See Sokolov in Marek and in Trentino...

I wish I would see Sokolov play. But in fact, his own national coach benches him in almost every match. And then he throws him into the deep end in the CL semis in a crucial moment. I guess you know how the set ended.
Whatever, Stoychev has several occasions in the next month to prove himself.
raylightBG 3131 15
7 years ago
-5
All of the "experts", look footage of play of Juantorena or Nikolov before Trento and compare with the play afterwords. Yoiu have to be blind not to see what is he doing with the boys in his team. See Sokolov in Marek and in Trentino, see Stokr, see Birarelli, see Sala's serve.I never said he is brilliant tactician, but he is still great as coach and remind you - statistically is impossible for bad coach to have such long series of wins no matter of luck and players. You all argue with mathematics, which is quite laughable, I would say.
zverPL 1037 15
7 years ago
0
+100 Zyta
pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
+8
Thanks Zyta & champion to save me further work. There's not much to add.
Of course Stoychev has qualities too. Saying he was a bad coach in every aspect of his work would be quite dumb. But his quality is more to be able to keep such a team, composed with stars who have an ego, together and keep them motivated after so much success. He didn't proof any outragious tactical knowledge so far.
He composed a team, that simply runs over almost every other team. As soon as Trento had to face a team that was able to hold up physically, and was coached better, Trento's flaws were bared. That team was Kazan. To quote myself from 01.01.12:
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The last years, most teams weren't ready for Trentos powerstyle. Cuneo was in a couple of matches, and Trento lost.
This year Trento will lose to Kazan in the final four, maybe even sooner.
Remember my words.

@rayray: Does your obsession with Bulgarian players/coaches really go so far, that you call me "arrogant" and "mediocre of mind" for not sharing your opinion about their greatness? Learn a lesson from champion. He is objective and kind.

Last edited by pesazi 7 years ago.

ZytaPL 1364 12
7 years ago
+13
Ralight Nawrocki is wining everything in PlusLiga as well. Talking like some blind fans of Skra (not all of them are blind) he won bronze and silver in CL. But are you gonna call him a great coach? No, his successes depends on his players. NightFox and I said we will see real strength of Stoychev with the national team. How many great players he created there so far? Penchev who was called to NT before, by Prandi? Or Skrimov, who was ignored by Rado so long? Wining with Matey, Osmany, Nikola is not artistry. Getting to Final Four with weaker teams which you improve and motivate, like Hoag is artistry. Doing something from nothing like Velasco in Iran is artistry. Winning for ten years, even without Ricardo, like Rezende is artistry.
Being "fresh" coach and handle and keep together such difficult character and experienced players like Grbic, Mastrangelo, Nikolov, Henno and Wijsmans is something big.
Guidetti said few days ago in interview for one polish website, that great coach is not only this one who wins a lot, but the one who every day teaches his players something new.
About this creating great players, you already lost yourself in your own opinions. Once you said Rado created Nikolov, then you said Nikolov was already a big star when he came to Trento. And before you will mention Riad, or even Winiarski, you should remember about their injuries which they got thanks to this coach, same with Kaziyski now, after this season with NT he will be shadow of Matey from the past. Creating new players is great, but not destroying them is even better...

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raylightBG 3131 15
7 years ago
-4
You gave impression how much you understand what Stoychev is doing in Trentino. He doesn't succeed because he has bunch of great players, he makes the great players, which is the big difference with your favorite coach who I think is not that good. And I think it is quite arrogant from your side to neglect the wins of much more accomplished than you coach and to deal with his long series of tropheys as "accidents", "big players carrying him on their shoulders" and other pseudo-arguments. Arrogance masked as sarcasm is mark for mediocrity of the mind, not for extreme inteligence. The inteligent people try to be humble at least.
ZytaPL 1364 12
7 years ago
+5
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If you do not want to be the alternative to Rapha, you can give on loan!

...or not sign bond with Trento, but go somewhere where you will play as a starter...
marchstIT 254 2
7 years ago
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Why is that?

If you do not want to be the alternative to Rapha, you can give on loan!

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handanTR 149 5
7 years ago
+1
marchst - So Trentino's setters are going to be Rapha and De Cecco! Something is wrong
pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
+10
The mere fact that you think I'm comparing something exposes you. I just tried to give an impression of the meaning of awards.

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raylightBG 3131 15
7 years ago
-8
And your comparison makes any sense
marchstIT 254 2
7 years ago
+2
I keep Stoitchev. Giuliani left him willingly in Macerata. As I hope that there remains Travica.
pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
+11
And Wlazly was awarded MVP at the CL F4
raylightBG 3131 15
7 years ago
-3
pesazi, Stoychev was awarded best coach of Serie A1 last year
marchstIT 254 2
7 years ago
0
Rapha will remain in Trento.

De Cecco,I would like now to Trento

Last edited by marchst 7 years ago.

pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
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Rapha remains ,however De Cecco would immediately.

Sorry, I didn't get it. Do you mean Raphael will stay in Trento and De Cecco wants to play in Trento even if Rapha stays? Do you have any sources for that?
marchstIT 254 2
7 years ago
0
Do not think Italian ancestors. Then in Italy is not so rapid and automatic.
marchstIT 254 2
7 years ago
0
Djuric is impossible to become italian.

Trento with a spiker stranger in the place of Osmany must take an MB italian.

Sokolov is good to do the opposite.

Rapha remains ,however De Cecco would immediately.

Last edited by marchst 7 years ago.

pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
+2
You're right, I actually did misunderstand you in your thoughts about Trento's system.
If the rumors about Monza are true, what I'm not sure about because I heard different things, I still don't see the reason why you think they should let Sokolov play as a wing spiker and Conte as opposite. To me it sounds more logical to take either Sokolov or Stokr as an opposite and let Conte play on his used position, even if he plays opposite sometimes.
In general, I don't like the switch from opposite to wing spiker that much. Sokolov's case reminds me of Grozer, who did the same. He had a decent reception and could have continued as a wing spiker, but in the end he didn't because he simply has the mentality and the talent to be even better as an opposite. Sokolov has such a talent, I don't like the idea to make him change the position.

As for Djuric, I don't know about the legal position, but two additional citizenships within six years is definitely special.

Jurij-kkPL 90 2
7 years ago
0
@le_bullit: i didn't hear about that.

Last edited by Jurij-kk 7 years ago.

le_bullitFR 65 1
7 years ago
0
Rumor on a french forum Pierre Pujol ( setter in Fart kielce Poland ) would be back in Cannes ( french ligue A ), anyone has any information ?
pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
0
@champion: You think the third wing spiker/opposite would be Kaziyski? I know you said "hypothetically", but seriously, I don't see any sense in this. Why would you like to have three at most average receivers on the court and turn an opposite into a wing spiker, without getting any advantage from it? Moreover you would bench Stokr.
Also it's hard for the setter to alternate between two opposites. I was surprised when Copra tried it, now I am sure that this system will not be seen in any top club these days.

Last edited by pesazi 7 years ago.

pearlIT 1078 11
7 years ago
+1
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Btw, what will happen with Omrcen? Did I miss something?


Omrcen is going to play in Japan next year, so Lube needs a new opposite. At first they thought about Lasko, now it seems pretty clear they have changed their mind and chosen Zaytsev. And Zizzo himself said (in the interview that Kjeldhor linked here below) that he's not afraid of changing role and playing as a pure opposite if necessary.
pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
0
@Jurij-kk: whatsoever, a reliable opposite is absolutely essential in today's game. Plus I think Zlatanov and Marshall fit better in this role than Savani and Zaytsev do. Imho Macerata would make a crucial error in not taking full advantage of Trento's weakness by showing up with such experiments.
Jurij-kkPL 90 2
7 years ago
0
pesazi
i think copra didn't fail because of the system, but because of injuries. They lost the best players near to the play off at 09/10 season and they couldn't play their best volley.

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pesaziDE 80 3
7 years ago
0
If that's true, this would be an awful plan by Macerata. There are good reasons why the game gets more and more specialised, and Copra already failed with the same system. Btw, what will happen with Omrcen? Did I miss something?
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Big mistake for Zaytsev

Zaytsev does exactly the right thing. In Macerata he plays next to Travica and has a better coach than Stoychev. Plus, Macerata is more balanced, with can only be helpful for a young player to make further progress.
In my opinion, there are good chances that Trento will not only lose their dominance at international competitions, but will also have problems in the A1 withhout Juantorena and probably Raphael. With Zaytsev and the right system, Macerata will definitely be able to be the better team.
Jurij-kkPL 90 2
7 years ago
0
Kjeldhor thanks. it will similar to copra style when there were Mrashall Bravo and Zlatanov
KjeldhorIT 1094 16
7 years ago
0
wing spiker, but whit a game-play similar to the old cuban style,

Parodi near Travica will be only a wing spiker, Savani and Ivan wing spiker when they are in the 3rd meter or opposit if they are in teh second line
Jurij-kkPL 90 2
7 years ago
0
Zaytsev in Macerata... in my opinion good idea, but i can't imagine at what position? My italian is poor, so i'm not able to understand. He will be wing-spiker or spiker?

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AkolitaUS 150 2
7 years ago
0
But as opposto...? What's with Savani?
pearlIT 1078 11
7 years ago
+1
Zaytsev in Macerata would be a dream come true for me.
raylightBG 3131 15
7 years ago
-3
Big mistake for Zaytsev
KjeldhorIT 1094 16
7 years ago
0
dunno if Macerata will play with 3 wing-spiker or wanna sell Parodi or Savani (but i don't think Savani will return in trento again)
hanes233EE 1419 5
7 years ago
0
Then who will play for Trento?
celloPL 4 1
7 years ago
0
casamodena, it seems Łukasz had a pretty good start in Modena. 11 points in the first match isn't half bad.
casamodenaIT 514 3
7 years ago
0
No, on todays San Giustino-Padova on raisport (eurosport) and Verona-Trentino on sporttube.tv with web streaming only
sorry for ot
sakuPL 1061 9
7 years ago
0
today match with modena will be transimted in raisport?
celloPL 4 1
7 years ago
+1
casamodena, yes I've heard about Piscopo's health problems. I have absolutely no idea how Łukasz is going to perform. He's hardly had time to carve out a niche for himself in Casa Modena - it's all happening very quickly. I do know one thing - he's quite a warrior on the court, but he needs a well-run club and serious stakes to show his true colors. His former club provided neither. Too bad, because I had high hopes for Tomaso Totolo and his leadership. Oh, well - Tomaso lost three key players and things just fell apart. Anyway, I am keeping my fingers crossed for Kadziu and Casa Modena. Kadziu was well-liked by the Russian fans when he played for Lokomotiv Belogorie, I hope he manages to win over the Italian fans as well. Good luck tomorrow! Let us know how it went.

Last edited by cello 7 years ago.

casamodenaIT 514 3
7 years ago
0
@cello I really hope that, also because our 3rd blocker, Piscopo (together with Yosifov) is injured (so we experct see him playing already on tomorrow).
Here finally the official announcement on our main website: http://www.pallavolomodena.com/default.asp
celloPL 4 1
7 years ago
0
Łukasz Kadziewicz is a very good middle-blocker, something Bagnoli and the club obviously know if Casa Modena signed him up.
@Siatkarz86, your comment is as bad as your English.
tomdokiPL 140 4
7 years ago
0
casamodena, thanks
zverPL 1037 15
7 years ago
0
tomdokiPL 140 4
7 years ago
0
casamodena, any source?
Siatkarz86PL 5 1
7 years ago
-1
Kadziewicz is without form, and it is hopeless. Can only harm in Modena
Jurij-kkPL 90 2
7 years ago
0
rbk17PL 144 2
7 years ago
0
Many Polish fans think that Kadziewicz make bad emotions in team, but not all.

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