Are you satisfy with the performance provided by the whole team and especially by the three NT players (Savani, Travica and Parodi) so far? 'Cause, honestly, i'm not. At first i was only disappointed but now i'm starting being pretty worried considering that soon these guys will have to play also important international tournaments with NT.
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Kjeld, Kk15, marchst and all the others, i'm looking forward to reading your opinions.
In this month they got some problem, but maybe it's only for hard work in the gym because they are strong and alredy showed what they can do...
Give to team at least 3 more month...
in più tra tutti l'unico che cambierei io sarebbe Parodi ?
(cmq penso che se c'è un problema è sicuramente di testa, ma se è così ho paura che Giuliani non vi possa aiutare, lui è un grandissimo tattico, ma un pessimo motivatore)
@marchst: About NT - I'm pretty worried instead; Sava and Drago are two first-strings and they're not playing well!! And we have no bench (especially for setter position)!! Only Parodi is improving more and more (menomale...dopo quasi un anno!!!!).
Diciamo che quando parlavo delle partite a 1000 e quelle a -2000 mi riferivo più che altro alle partite di Champions (e sono più quelle che non mi sono piaciute di quelle che mi sono piaciute).
Per quanto riguarda le mie aspettative invece, dico la verità: pensavo che insieme a Trento avrebbero fatto il vuoto dietro e sarebbero stati in grado di tener testa alla corazzata trentina.
Macerata unlike Cuneo of recent years has that charismatic leader who is Grbic, inside and outside the game
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the only cure is to resume winning and that is why we must give everything for Sunday's purpose and to resume belief in their own abilities.
Dopo la partita di andata di reguler season giocata a Trento dove eravamo reduci dal mondiale per club ho capito che erano un po' sotto il nostro livello dato che son riusciti a portare a casa solo un 3-2 contro una squadra visibilmente affaticata.
Detto questo ogni partita ha storia a se ed il potenziale di Macerata può uscire al momento giusto già dai prossimi impegni.
Per quanto riguarda la nazionale il mio ottimismo deriva dalla quasi impossibilità di non raggiungere Londra (in Bulgaria o nel successivo in Italia) e poi bisogna pensare che si troveranno in altro contesto con diversi compagni e tecnici.
e per la champions hanno tutte le possibilità che vogliono.. è una partita da vincere e poi un golden set (e se giocate meglio di cuneo e vincete è altamente probabile che vinciate anche il golden set)
a me Travica e Savani piacciono, Parodi no =P (ma son gusti personali, non discuto che è forte)
It's normal for me that Trento is stronger than Macerata: Macerata has a great line up and also few worthy bench players, but Trento has a great line up too (I guess they only have a worst libero and worst MB, Bira, but both a're still very good) and defintly a better bench: exept probably Kovar (compared to Della Lunga) there is a huge difference between Trento and Macerata second setter and opposite. If Igor is playing bad, changing him with Van Walle could result to be a bad idea, while if Stokr is playing bad, Sokolov is a certain. And if we count also Colaci as a bench pleyer..!
And, this is the most important thing, Macerata changed a lot this year, and expecially changed the coach and the setter, the minds of the team! And the libero, the mind of the reception!
While Trento in the last two years only changed 1 player for season, keeping setters, coach, libero... They are a very complete team, they didn't need to find their identity, while this Macerata is facing for the first time a competition like the CL.
And Trento is still the first in avoiding errors, expecially in serve, even if they serve like hell
Now let analyse Macerata failurs:
- first loss match:
vs F. Istanbul. Lost 3-2 in trasfert. The same week they won 3-2 vs Trento and vs Cuneo, if I'm not wrong. That was something totally acceptable, imo
- second loss match:
vs Vibo. Probably nobody saw that coming, but did somebody imagined that Trento would have lost vs Latina this year, or Verona last year? But also Zaksa this year!
- third lost matche:
vs Novosibirsk. Without Omrcen and in trasfert (long travel, jet flag, icredible under 0°C temperature) they lost 3-1 playing a good match, with character and determination, and vs a very excellent team (Russian Cup winner, right?). It was an important match, but they lost it "good". So, no big deal. And we also have to remember that they won 3 points both vs Fenherbache and Novosibirsk at home!
-4th lost match:
vs Piacenza. That was probably the first real "fail", but Piacenza was playing for the first time with the new coach (so, big spirit), and Macerata didn't even go home after coming back fro Russia. God, they're human, not machine! I imagine they were really exausted..
Then they played an almost perfect match vs Rome, that played well too honestly (so, no gift). And that was an in/out match, and they handle it perfectly.
Then, this two loss. The one vs Trento, were they played quite well but nothing extraordnary, while Trento played may be not at his best but still a very nice game. They were really foul to let Trento coming back in the second set (from 21-24 to 26-24). Bye bye to the first place (almost sure), but after all... Who cares? It is important to be first, but not essential.
And yes, the last match vs Cuneo. BIG FAIL. And not because they lost, but because they played soo badly! Cuneo did good, but Macerata commetted so many mistake in attack and in very simple situation! Now it will be VERY hard to kepp being in CL, but again, it is not compromised ?
Was this the most important match they played in this season so far? Probably, but actually the most important one was the one vs Roma, and they played a perfect match, with not even the shadow of fear/pressure...
I think we will have more answer from the next CL match, and from the Italian Cup.
Trento is still the favourite, but in a single match being the favourite doesn't count much.
And remember the not written rule of the Italian Championship: you can't win both the Italian Cup and the Scudetto in the same year... so may be evn losing the Italian Cup can be a good thing ?
About the italian players, Parodi is still not the same in general (last year in Cuneo it almost never happened that he played a bad match.. may be not brillant, but never bad), but now he can have great matches, like he used to be (both in attack and reception), and also contribuite with important serves, even if with few errors.
Travica, depends. I overall apreciate him, but he lacks of precision, and that it's ok when the team is at 100%, but it's a problem when the team is underperforming... also because may be he lost a bit of lucidity. (like vs Trento at end of the second set: he kept setting to Stankovic that had a very bad time in attack, and the result was Trento did a 4-0 partial and won the set). But in general, I think he is playing at his normal level...
Savani, well, he is a player that sometimes can underperform. I agree, in the last two matches he undeperform, but for example in the 1/4 vs Rome he was excellent. I won't be such worried. I'm not saying he will be necessary be great with the NT, but that the way he his playing doesn't let us to predict how he will play for example in Bulgaria.
i promise i'll read..
I think It's not only players' fault. Giuliani for me isn't the proper trainer of such a team, he's a bit overrated: most of his achievements with Cuneo happened when Trento was not in the best shape and with his team much rested, and that is very important aspect to consider before a single decisive match.
P.S. Igor Omrcen may leave the team to go playing in the Japanese league (no idea where) and their are thinking about Lasko (voices)
I won't be offended if you won't read the whole post, don't worry?
I don't have the gift of the sinthesis...
Controproductive having many NT players togheter? May be in long term, but in short term I'll see it as an advantages... The best thing would be having Bari too, for the reception ?
I must say I honestly like Giuliani, he kinda gives me the impression of using the right tone in the right moments, but of course I can't have a proper impression from outside...
i also like Giuliani ? as regards Bari, well i don't know, he's not exactly my favourite kind of libero ?
anyway i really don't be scared, macerata is still in game and is very strong, just keep confidence as all the fan should do. (this isn't an advice, it's an imperative ? )
Ray: LOL mate, you're damned right about Tolstoy!!! And what about Dickens' descriptions??? if something can be described in 2 lines, Dickens needs a whole chapter to describe it!! ?
@casamodena Lasko in Macerata will be a great idea to replace Omrcen and I think that Drago,Sava,Parodi and Lasko could get more "fellowship" playing in the same team...
@pearl ho letto il tuo commento,è vero quando si vede la propria squadra giocare così è normale essere amareggiati e dispiaciuti,ma purtroppo non possiamo far nulla per cambiare la situazione... Tranne sperare che questo brutto momento passi in fretta e che Macerata torni ai livelli che noi sappiamo può raggiungere,con un pò di convinzione in più ?
BTW, Ngapeth *_*
today's match worsens even more mental state, since it was in two sets (easy) has traded blow losing two (easy) with a resurgence of pride in tiebreakers but having success.
at this point to see Wednesday at 75% favorite Cuneo.
Do you remember what happened with Cuneo last CL? They lost 3-1 vs Dinamo at home, then won 3-1 vs Dinamo in Moscow, and finally lost the Golden set...
anyway i think if Macerata is going to win next match, probably will win he golden set also
On the other hands Macerata is disappointing lately, but if they play like they did vs Rome they can be unstoppable imo. I want give them the benefits of the doubt ? I wanna trust them, I hope they won't let me down. Expecially at Italian Cup semfinal, that hopefully I'll watch live ?
But after all our discussions are quite useless because we all know that Trento will go to the CL final4 ?
Pity that i cannot see Cuneo Macerata (i predict battle) because i'm the Palatrento.
BTW...incredible match!! I only have two possible explanations to comment Lube's performance tonight:
1st is that the guys must have read our comments here, got angry and wanted to show us what they're really able to do ?
2nd they finally found an excellent exorcist!!! ROTFL
anyway it was a war not a match!!! and i'm very happy, got bored to see Cuneo-Trento ?
I couldn't watch the match because I was training, and I rememebered only 15 minutes ago to check the result >.<, otherwise I could have watch the last our of this 3 HOURS MATCH!!
Incredible!
And Macerata as far as I desume from the score had to pass a very very tough proove, considering that at 2-1 for Cuneo they closed at the advantages both the 4th and 5th set!!!
And the the Golden set too!!
I've to watch that match! I wanna watch Savani expression at his ace of 14-16 of the Golden set *.*
But thanks ?
@pearl sicuramente avranno letto i nostri consigli... E devo dire che l'esorcista ha fatto proprio un buon lavoro! ?
@phoenix, if you like to watch it you'll find it on laola, there is a whole channel for the CL (both men and women CL) with all the full matches of the play off and most of the matches of the pools?
@Kjeldhor, I've seen it ? ! Actually his expression was different than I expected! He rised his arms in the middle of the court, in silence (ot so it seemed to me), and then I guess he was so tired that he could barely simled ? Or he still had to realized that THEY DID IT!
That means that in this troubled period they're facing, started with the loss vs Novosibirsk, Macerata won only 2 matches over 7 played, but the most important 2 ?
Well, the one vs Trento was very important to keep the first place, but it was still less important than the other two imo?
http://www.travica.net/travica.net/Blog.html
I'm pretty sure he's talking about me ROTFL :D
pearl... you're not objective =P
@champion A private flight waits you! We want u between us!
@all Ok,I stop spamming!
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