Kk15: I've been spending half day commenting "Juantorena's issue" here and elsewhere. I agree both what you and Kjeldhor have said and I have already expressed my opinion about it. Now, please, can we stop this discussion - at least here, there is a specific thread on the homepage of this site - and go back talking about our championship?? Please guys, please ?
Yes sorry the fact is I wasn't at home the whole day so I'm reading now all the artcile about it, and I'm watching the match in the midtime, so it was natural to me to comment xD
And Sabbi closed an incredible rally at 15-15 of third set, standing ovation in the Palazzetto?
What a pity I can't record the match ?
BTW, Mosna apologized in a very kind way, I apreciate a lot ?
@Kk15: Okay, that is something which interests me more: Sabbi's performance ? And, if I'm not not, Roma's starting six was with Zizzo and Maruotti as spikers and Gabriele played pretty well. Can you confirm that?
PS. Ti ho mandato un MP sul "fattaccio"...poi non ne parlo più ?
“Sinceramente preoccupato per il disappunto espresso dalla M.Roma Volley per bocca del suo allenatore, questa mattina, dopo aver attentamente guardato il filmato dell’ultima battuta del match di ieri sera ho voluto sentire la ricostruzione dei fatti ed il parere dei miei Dirigenti, dei Tecnici e di Juantorena – spiega – . Ho potuto appurare che si è trattato di un gesto tecnico che il giocatore usa provare in allenamento e che alcuni compagni, a mo’ di scommessa, o di sfida, credevano lui non avrebbe mai tentato in partita. Da qui, certamente con leggerezza, considerando che si era all’ultimo punto, in casa altrui, e che proprio il suo servizio aveva creato la differenza tra i due sestetti, la decisione di battere “alla coreana”. Non c’è dubbio: si è trattato di una scelta discutibile che, calata in quel particolare momento del match, poteva essere evitata. Tengo però a sottolineare che il nostro atleta ha effettuato un gesto tecnico non proprio semplice e che appartiene al repertorio di pochi (non una battuta “da sotto” come ha scritto qualcuno). Mi risulta che, già sul posto, Dirigenti, Tecnici e lo stesso Juantorena, pur spiegando le ragioni di tutto ciò, abbiamo provveduto ripetutamente a scusarsi con Atleti e Dirigenti romani che, in questa, come in altre occasioni, ci hanno ospitato con grande generosità, a sottolineare i sentimenti di stima ed amicizia che, da sempre, legano i due Club”.
“Sento a questo punto di dover esprimere io stesso, in prima persona, le scuse più sincere a nome della Società, dato che per motivi di lavoro non ero presente al PalaTiziano – conclude Mosna – ; vorrei ribadire che l’episodio non voleva essere irriverente nei confronti di nessuno, tanto meno del pubblico della Capitale che ha applaudito e sostenuto le prodezze di tutti i protagonisti di una bella ed equilibrata sfida. Se fraintendimento c’è stato, però, di certo lo abbiamo procurato noi ed allora è giusto che Trentino Volley si prenda la responsabilità sull’accaduto. Ho invitato in passato e continuerò ad invitare in futuro i nostri atleti ed il nostro staff tecnico ad evitare ogni possibile atteggiamento che possa essere oggetto di polemica o innescare atteggiamenti poco consoni al nostro sport, caratterizzato da persone che si rispettano e stimano anche nel pieno della tensione agonistica e che sanno sempre complimentarsi l’un l’altro al termine di ogni gara”.
Me too I saw the episode only right now. Not much to say.. Luckily it happened in front of civil and non-historically-rival supporters' crowd. A bet with the teammates? But shame on you! The respect for the opponents and the paying audience first!I'm personally losing the respect and the admiration for this player by some time. You are a champion if you're like that BOTH with your plays and your behaviour on the court. I also remember some games where he silence the opponets' fans after scoring an (honestly speaking) amazing action.
PS1: Nothing to say about the human being seen as player.
PS2: Rival supporters intended with a sports-like meaning, of course.
PS3: Making an example, for me, Mikhaylov is a champion.
This is my point of view, glad to read yours.
One thing more. This kind of serve is born with beach volleyball and it is oftenly used by players to create problems in opponents' reception WITH THE AID OF THE WIND AND THE SUN (sorry for the capitals) .. So without wind and sun.. Is this tactic? Are the reflectors so shining in PalaTiziano?
Please, please... no words. Really a poor show this time, my dear volleyball aliens.
@casamodena: if you want to read my opinion on the matter you can go and read the thread on the homepage. After saying that I'll add that you're right in both your comments, but I beg you...please...let's forget this "sad episode" and go back commenting our championship ? What about Modena's victory over Belluno? ?
@italiani Scusatemi, volevo solo dire la mia, non certo creare polemiche ?
@foreigns Sorry, I only wanted to say what my opinion is.
@pearl Modena is in a difficult moment. There's not a single game where our setter is sure to set the ball to a reliable attacker. For example, in the match against San Giustino, Anderson (arrived back from WC only 24hrs before) scored 28 points with monster attack-receive %s. 3 days later against Belluno Bagnoli had continuously to put him on the bench because of terrible mistakes.
Luckily Dennis played a good game, after nervous discussion with the supporters during the week about his weak (haha sorry ?) performance with S.Giustino. Like every tiebreak, the match was decided by episodes (3 ace in a row by Sala) even if yes, we were near to lose it on the score of 3-11 cause other trivial concentration faults who took us onto 13-14 followed with an ace serve by Fei (seen out by the referees). Neverthless to add better for us it ended this way! ? (davvero una ladrata cmq, ci meritavamo che riaprissero il match)
I have seen a lot of great players to confront the judge when they know 100% they are not right just to get a point, I have seen them quarrel with the opponent through the net, (Yes, Luigi, I mean you too) and I don't see how this is so much better than the stupid Osmany serve. I think in the land of St. Peter some people should remember the phrase "Do not judge or you shall be judged by the same merit"
@raylight: please, amico mio, don't start all over again ?
@casamodena: mmmm, but has Dennis' situation been solved, or still there's some tension there?
Kjeld: casamodena wrote here (or was another discussion...don't remember) that he had some fights with his coach and there were rumours about him leaving Modena. That's why I asked him (I mean casamodena) some news about the matter ?
@pearl,Kjeldhor No guys, maybe I was misunderstood, Dennis's nervousness against the coach and the managment are just like normal "fights" caused by different points of view during the match. The matter about him leaving Modena is the same of this summer transfer session (money reasons and so on) and is not due to these tensions. I was reporting a different topic, because he had a heated discussion with the supporters on a social network during last week. They criticized him about his lazy attitude since a bit of time, where Dennis replied " Yes, the real problem here it's me, and be sure I will leave in short times, you will see everything will change" that sparked the reaction by the supporters. Now the question appears to be solved after his excuses to everybody and the good performance against Belluno.
Totally agree Kjeldhor,and it is because of that who people don't stand his annoying attitude expecting him behave like a professional player is (till the end of the contract). Voices about a possible transfer are anyway not related to the value of the player in itself, but other inner reasons me too I'm never able to know about ?
@pearl: Zaytsev was super, Maruotti played quite good!
While we have a bad new fro Bjelica: he has a broken "menisco", so he can't jump... now he'll have to stop for about a month and a half as far as I read, he will be treated (I'm not sure if also operated...) in Bologna (like Parodi, I guess it the same place...?).
Now we only have Lebl, that sometimes can play quite well but his is not really improving (notghing compared to Bjelica serve...), and the australian MB Passier, that seemed to me better than I expected, I don't know if we are looking for someone else...
BTW, I hope we can win these 4 matches coming (Monza seems - apparently!! - to be the tougher, expecially with the couple Conte-De Cecco, but as always it is really hard to make predictions in our championship, fortunally!) and got a nice position for the 1/8 of the Italian Cup... It will be a dream to be in the final4, since it will be in Rome, but in Palalottomatica, that is more than the double of Palatiziano *.* And may be this time I'll try to get a ticket in the first circle ?
@Kk15: yeah I already knew about BJelica ? but even though Passier isn't so bad I'm pretty sure Roma is going to look for somebody else: the Australian kid is still too young and inexperienced for our league and Zizzo & Co. need desperately to win next four matches (and I agree with you, Monza's is the toughest one).
@casamodena: thanx for your explanation ? it's pretty clear I had misunderstood ?
@Kk15 What about Martino? Shall I not answer? .. reserve question please! ?
Well, I hope to be disproved by facts, but actually he has nothing to do with Martinos we remember in Macerata and Milano, reception still not much accurate as well as attack, he's now playing cause Kooy's injury forcing him out up to the end of 2011. I'm disappointed about him, but also confident because we'll need him
How you dare to insult him?????!!!!
You know HOW MUCH I love him ?
I had few (useless, at the end) discussion on Pasaini's blog with few Martino big lovers (one or two are defintly girls), about Martino coming back in indoor and about Martino GREAT(-.-) results in beach volleyball... For example I reported in a comment - with link of FIVB website - a list of Martino and Martino-Nicolai position in the rankings and their result this year, and I did the same with the couple Lupo-Nicolai, to proove that L-N reached more than M-N and to proove that since Nicolai is the costant, Martino can't be the one that we have to thanks if italian male becah vb reached smth this year, but it wasn't enough for the pro-Martino commentators, because he is so good!! (or better... so God!)
And, you know... everybody like to be right ? even if I wish him I'm wrong. But not when Modena plays vs Roma and Macerata ?
How you dare to insult him?????!!!!
You know HOW MUCH I love him ?
I had few (useless, at the end) discussion on Pasaini's blog with few Martino big lovers (one or two are defintly girls), about Martino coming back in indoor and about Martino GREAT(-.-) results in beach volleyball... For example I reported in a comment - with link of FIVB website - a list of Martino and Martino-Nicolai position in the rankings and their result this year, and I did the same with the couple Lupo-Nicolai, to proove that L-N reached more than M-N and to proove that since Nicolai is the costant, Martino can't be the one that we have to thanks if italian male becah vb reached smth this year, but it wasn't enough for the pro-Martino commentators, because he is so good!! (or better... so God!)
And, you know... everybody like to be right ? even if I wish him I'm wrong. But not when Modena plays vs Roma and Macerata ?
@Kk15 Hej, mine are definitely not insults but things like they really are ? . After seeing him getting 3 aces and more or less 4 stuff blocks by Luxembourgish team VC Strassen on yesterday night, I would add I've said compliments to him ? (cioè mi spiego: seppure giocando con le riserve - e Matteo - rischiavamo di perdere il secondo set contro una squadra del livello di una nostra B-2 che aveva in roster diversi under 18! O_O)
Gente non so che diamine succeda alla mia connessione ma non riesco più a vedere uno streaming da per lo meno 2 giorni. Ve la faccio breve: volevo vedere Vibo-Verona oggi, ma non ci riesco, perciò se qualcuno vede la partita potrebbe scrivere qualcosa qui dopo (non so se Kjeld la registrerà). Mi interessa sapere, soprattutto, di Barone (se gioca ovviamente). Grazie !
English version for our non-italian-speaker friends (and especially raylight ?):
Guys, I don't know what the hell is going on with my internet connection but I haven't watched anything for two days at least...streaming simply doesn't work no matter the browser i use... in short, i wanted to see Vibo's match today but i'm not able to, so if any of you can, please write something here after the game (have no idea whether Kjeldhor can tape it or not) ? I'm interested in Barone's performance mainly (if he plays, of course). Thanx in advance!
Trento vs Cuneo was a worthy to watch match! Trento deserved the victory but Cuneo has to be compliment for gaining the tie break after losing 3-0, they didn't give up and that made it way more interesting! Expecially in the end of the 4th set, very intense.
BTW, I still have the impression that only few people in Cuneo care about Gulinelli's word...
Cuneo is lazier, sloopier (I'm not sure this term actually exist xD) than before, unfortunally.
Roma won 3-1 not playing well as far as I read, but the 3 points are what we care the most ? (and the 5th place)
Milan Bencz was nominated MVP, I'm so glad about that because I really apreciate the guy, he is committed! He is also a good player that often scored a lot of point for the team last year as titoular (>20 for match, usually) - today he contribuited with 25, plus 23 by Zaytsev. I think is difect was (I don't know if it still is) committe mistakes in crucial moments, or more mistake in a row (like being blocked twice in a row).
Another incredible new: Lebl scored an ACE. He did 20 serves, 1 error, 1 ace. WOW xD
You can find Monza-San Giustino on sportube... (It ended 3-2)
It's really curious that the first time Conte was allowed to play with Monza, was vs San Giustino!
And Trento was really more effective with the MBs imo, even if Birarelli decread during the match in attack.
I read often comment about Raphael colled like "high-ball-to-Kaizisky-and-Juantorena-Raphael", but I don't agree. May be he isn't such creative as Bruno (he is not), but he is so precise imo... If I compare hime to Travica... Well, Birarelli is rarely as effective as in Trento in attack playing with Italy... And I also love Raphael's pipes, even if today once or twice (I think once with K and once with J) he didn't set the pipe very well, but it doesn't matter.
I watched Trento v Cuneo and WOW what a match! But Cuneo was so annoying ?( I mean they started playing seriously only in 3rd set and mygosh if only they'd pay a bit more of attention and care to what they're doing when on court they certainly could have won today! They simply spoiled it all in the tie.break...which is uneccapteble with a club like they are!! And N'gapeth is a "beast"...but someone has to tell this guy that there's no need to use the "machete" on every single ball he spikes...sometimes "fioretto" is more effective ?
LA CLASSICISSIMA DEL DECIMO TURNO SI RISOLVE AL TIE BREAK: VITTORIA 3-2 SU CUNEO ED ALLUNGO IN CLASSIFICA
Trento, 18 dicembre 2011
Lo scontro al vertice del decimo turno di Serie A1 Sustenium premia l’Itas Diatec Trentino, capace di superare per al tie break i rivali di sempre della Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo al termine di una sfida che, come da pronostico, ha regalato grandi emozioni e momenti di altissima pallavolo sino all’ultimo scambio.
Per la formazione di Radostin Stoytchev è un successo di rilievo, che riscatta il passaggio a vuoto di mercoledì sera contro lo Zaksa Kedzierzyn-Kozle (nuovamente avversario dei gialloblù giovedì sera in Polonia) ma che permette al tempo stesso l’ulteriore allungo in cima alla classifica del campionato: Kaziyski e compagni guidano infatti ora la graduatoria con due punti su Macerata, vittoriosa 3-0 a Padova, e tre sulla stessa Cuneo. A tre giornate dalla conclusione del girone d’andata un piccolo ma significativo passo verso il titolo di campione d’inverno e soprattutto verso la testa di serie numero uno nella griglia dei quarti di finale di Coppa Italia 2012 è stato quindi compiuto.
Davanti ai quasi quattromila spettatori presenti stasera al PalaTrento e a quelli della guest star della giornata Marco Melandri (il motociclista è stato protagonista nel pre-partita di un simpatico scambio casco-maglietta Itas Diatec Trentino con capitan Kaziyski) i padroni di casa sono quindi tornati subito sui propri livelli di gioco e lo hanno fatto sin dal primo parziale, mettendo Cuneo spalle al muro per almeno due set, trascinati dalla qualità del proprio servizio (5 dei tredici ace totali sono arrivati solo nel periodo d’apertura) e dalla continuità della propria palla alta. Cuneo ha dimostrato carattere da grande squadra fra terzo e quarto set, quando trascinata dall’ex Vissotto (alla fine 26 punti con 4 ace e due muri) aveva fatto segnare i punti della rimonta. Il tie break è stato poi condotto dai piemontesi sino al 5-8 prima che Kaziyski e Djuric si scatenassero mettendo la parola fine al match.
Proprio il capitano non poteva scegliere modo migliore per festeggiare la sua duecentesima partita in maglia trentina: i due ace nel quinto set uniti ai 26 punti totali con il 56% a rete e due muri gli sono valsi il titolo di mvp della serata. Accanto a lui come al solito su ottimi livelli anche Juantorena (21 palloni vincenti con il 50%, tre ace e due muri) e di Djuric, scatenato in attacco (67%) ed incisivissimo fra muro e servizio (9 punti da questi due fondamentali). Positivo anche l’ingresso di Sokolov (titolare in pianta stabile dal terzo set in poi al posto di uno Stokr con percentuali basse), ben ispirato dalle regia di Raphael che ha spesso avuto la palla fra le mani grazie alla bella serata in ricezione di Andrea Bari (71%).
La cronaca del match. Le due squadre si presentano al cospetto di un PalaTrento vicino al sold out entrambe in formazioni tipo; ad uscire meglio dai blocchi di partenza è Cuneo che sfrutta la buona vena iniziale di Ngapteh (tre punti di cui uno a muro) per giungere al primo time out tecnico avanti 7-8. Un errore di Juantorena in attacco e un muro di Fortunato su Kaziyski alla ripresa del gioco allargano il divario (7-10); i gialloblù impattano subito (10-10) grazie a Stokr e poi passano a condurre (14-12) sfruttando due errori in attacco di Vissotto ed un ace dello stesso Osmany. Il muro dell’italo-cubano su Vissotto e l’ace di Raphael su Wijmsans spingono Trento al massimo vantaggio (21-17): Gulinelli chiede tempo ma ciò non basta per schiarire le idee ai suoi; la prima frazione si chiude sul 25-20 in favore dei padroni di casa.
Il secondo parziale si apre ancora nel segno dei padroni di casa che con Juantorena al servizio mettono da parte quasi subito quattro break point (6-2), sfruttando le difficoltà in ricezione di Ngapeth ed il muro di Birarelli su Wijsmans. Il giovane francese sbanda anche in attacco e l’Itas Diatec Trentino vola sul +6 (9-3); nella fase centrale anche il servizio piemontese presta il fianco (troppi errori e nessun ace) e allora la squadra di Stoytchev ne approfitta per realizzare un altro break point (15-8) con Kaziyski. Il finale di set vede Trento controllare bene l’ampio vantaggio (19-11 e 22-14) e portarsi sul 2-0 con facilità approfittando ancora una volta dell’ottima vena di Juantorena che proprio negli ultimi punti lascia spazio a Lanza (25-19).
Nella terza frazione Cuneo prova a partire forte (3-5) affidandosi ad Ngapeth ma gli iridati, che ora schierano Sokolov al posto di Stokr, reagiscono subito e trovano in fretta la parità (7-7). Nella fase centrale i break point che fanno la differenza: Kaziyski e lo stesso Tsvetan firmano l’allungo sul +3 (15-12), Juantorena va a segno al servizio per il +4 (16-12); Cuneo barcolla ma riesce a rimanere in piedi e anzi con gli ace di Grbic (su Kaziyski per il 18-16), Wijsmans e Vissotto si riporta avanti 21-22. E’ proprio l’ex di turno più fresco a procurarsi il primo set ball (22-24) che poi Ngapeth realizza immediatamente ancora con la battuta (22-25).
Nel quarto set Stoytchev conferma Sokolov in campo ma proprio un errore del bulgaro favorisce la fuga ospite (1-3) che poi diventa più concreta sul 2-6 grazie ad un paio di prodezze di Ngapeth. Trento cerca di rifarsi sotto (8-9) sfruttando le alte percentuali in attacco di Kaziyski ma il tocco da seconda linea (!) di Grbic e l’ace di Vissotto rimettono terreno fra le due squadre (9-12). Con il brasiliano sugli scudi Cuneo dilaga (12-16) ma poi si lascia riprendere dalla tenacia gialloblù che arriva fino al 21-22 grazie agli attacchi di Kaziyski e dal muro di Raphael. La contesa di protrae ai vantaggi con Trento che annulla tre palle set (da 22-24 a 25-25) ma poi non ne sfrutta ben set per chiudere la contesa sul 3-1 (Vissotto incontenibile). Alla quinta occasione è Cuneo allora a guadagnare il tie break risolvendo la contesa sul 33-35 con un muro di Mastrangelo su Sokolov.
Il tie break è contrassegnato dagli ace di Wijsmans e Vissotto; Cuneo li sfrutta per volare sul 3-6. Sokolov (attacco) e Kaziyski (cambiopalla e due ace) firmano l’aggancio sull’8-8. Le battute vincenti di Djuric scavano un solco fra le due squadre (14-9). Chiude un attacco di Sokolov (15-11).
“Forse avremmo potuto chiudere la partita anche prima, in quattro set, ma credo che vada bene anche così perché quella che abbiamo portato a casa stasera è stata una partita di altissimo livello – ha dichiarato al termine della sfida Radostin Stoytchev – . Sul 2-0 Cuneo ha trovato il modo per metterci in difficoltà e lo ha fatto sino alla fine rispondendo colpo su colpo. Sono particolarmente contento quindi per la reazione dimostrata dalla squadra nel momento più difficile del match, quando durante il tie break ci siamo trovati sotto per 5-8. In quel caso abbiamo attinto a tutte le nostre energie, non solo fisiche ma anche mentali portando a casa due punti assolutamente importanti”.
Da domani la formazione Campione del Mondo, d’Europa e d’Italia cambierà nuovamente fronte (e pallone) iniziando a pensare alla trasferta polacca di 2012 CEV Volleyball Champions League; giovedì 22 dicembre ad ore 18 a Kedzierzyn-Kozle inizierà infatti il girone di ritorno della Pool C. In Serie A1 Sustenium invece si tornerà in campo solo il giorno di Santo Stefano alla Spes Arena di Belluno.
Di seguito il tabellino della gara del decimo turno di regular season giocata questa sera al PalaTrento.
Itas Diatec Trentino-Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo 3-2
(25-20, 25-19, 22-25, 33-35, 15-11)
ITAS DIATEC TRENTINO: Kaziyski 26, Djuric 17, Raphael 3, Juantorena 21, Birarelli 8, Stokr 4, Bari (L); Colaci (L), Della Lunga, Lanza, Sokolov 12, Zygadlo. N.e. Burgsthaler. All. Radostin Stoytchev.
ARBITRI: Tanasi di Noto (Siracusa) e Saltalippi di Perugia.
DURATA SET: 26’, 26’, 29’, 39’, 23’; tot 2h e 23’.
NOTE: 3.998 spettatori per un incasso di 41.854 euro. Itas Diatec Trentino: 14 muri, 13 ace, 15 errori in battuta, 12 errori azione, 50% in attacco, 62% (32%) in ricezione. Bre Banca Lannutti: 9 muri, 10 ace, 19 errori in battuta, 10 errori azione, 52% in attacco, 49% (24%) in ricezione. Mvp Kaziyski.
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The classic THE TENTH ROUND IS RESOLVED TO TIE BREAK: WIN 3-2 ON LONGER AND CLASSIFICATION WEDGE
Trento, December 18, 2011
The clash at the top of the tenth round of Series A1 Sustenium rewards Itas Trentino Diatec, able to overcome in order to break the tie rivals of Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo at the end of a challenge, as the odds, he brought forth great emotions and high volleyball until the last moments of exchange.
For the formation of Radostin Stoytchev is a major success, which rescues the move to Wednesday night against the vacuum Zaks Kedzierzyn-Kozle (yellow and blue of the opponent again Thursday night in Poland) but at the same time allows further stretch the top of the Championship standings: Kaziyski and fellow guide in fact now the ranking with two points of Macerata, 3-0 victory at Padua, and three on the same Cuneo. Three days after the conclusion of the first round a small but significant step towards the championship title in the winter and especially towards the seeded number one in the grid of the Italian Cup quarter-finals of 2012 was then performed.
In front of nearly four thousand spectators tonight at PalaTrento and those of the guest star of the day Marco Melandri (the motorcyclist was featured in the pre-game exchange of a helmet-friendly shirt with Captain Itas Trentino Diatec Kaziyski) the hosts are then immediately returned on their levels of play and have done since the first part, Cuneo put a corner for at least two sets, carried away by the quality of its service (5 out of thirteen total ace came only in the opening period) and the continuity of their high ball. Cuneo has shown great character to team between the third and fourth sets, when they dragged former Vissotto (26 points at the end with 4 aces and two walls) had to score points in the comeback. The tie break was then taken up by the Piedmontese to 5-8 before it was unleashed Kaziyski Djuric and putting an end to the match.
Just the captain could not have chosen better way to celebrate its two hundredth game in top thirty: two aces in the fifth set combined with 26 total points with 56% and two mesh walls have earned him the title of MVP of the evening. Next to him as usual excellent levels of well Juantorena (21 balls with the winning 50%, three aces and two walls) and Djuric, unleashed in attack (67%) and wall-incisivissimo Service (9 points from these two fundamental ). Sokolov also positive input (the holder on a permanent basis from the third set in, then instead of a Stokr with low rates), inspired by well-directed by Raphael, which has often had the ball in his hands thanks to the lovely evening in receipt of Andrea Bari (71%).
The chronicle of the match. The two teams have in front of a sold-out PalaTrento close to both type formations; best out of the starting blocks Cuneo is exploiting the good vena initial Ngapteh (three points in a wall) to reach the first time technically out ahead 7-8. An error Juantorena in attack and a wall of Fortunato Kaziyski of the resumption of the game are widening the gap (7-10); the gialloblù impact right away (10-10) and then pass through Stokr to lead (14-12) using two errors and an ace attack Vissotto Osmany the same. The wall of the Italian-Cuban Vissotto and the ace of Raphael Wijmsans Trent push to maximum advantage (21-17): Gulinelli asks what time but not enough to lighten his ideas, the first fraction is close to 25 - 20 in favor of the landlords.
The second part opens again in the sign of the hosts who Juantorena with the service set aside almost immediately four break points (6-2), taking advantage of the difficulties in receiving Ngapeth and the wall of Birarelli Wijsmans. The young Frenchman lurches in the attack and flies on Itas Trentino Diatec +6 (9-3), the service also at the central Piedmont opens the way (too many errors and no aces) and then the team took the opportunity to make Stoytchev another break points (15-8) with Kaziyski. The final set saw Trent-check the large advantage (19-11 and 22-14) and go 2-0 up easily once again taking advantage of the excellent vein of Juantorena in the last few points that leaves room for Lanza (25 -19).
In the third fraction as strong proof Cuneo (3-5) relying on Ngapeth but the championship, which now line up in place of Stokr Sokolov, react immediately and quickly find the parity (7-7). In the middle of the break points that make the difference: Tsvetan Kaziyski and the same sign on the stretch +3 (15-12), Juantorena it hits the service for the +4 (16-12); Cuneo staggers but manages to stand and even with ace Grbic (Kaziyski of the 18-16), is shown below Vissotto Wijsmans and 21-22. And 'their former duty to obtain fresher September 1 ball (22-24) then immediately realizes Ngapeth even with the beat (22-25).
Stoytchev confirms Sokolov in the fourth set but just an error in the field of Bulgarian guest favors the escape (1-3), which becomes more concrete about 2-6 thanks to a couple of feats of Ngapeth. Trent is seeking to rebuild under (8-9) taking advantage of the high percentage Kaziyski attack but the second touch-line (!) Of Grbic and ace Vissotto endanger ground between the two teams (9-12). With the Brazilian shields Cuneo on ramps (12-16) but then again it leaves yellow and blue by the tenacity of up to 21-22 thanks to attacks from the wall and Kaziyski Raphael. The contest lasts the advantages of Trent, which cancels three balls sets (22-24 to 25-25) but then it exploits well set to close the contest on 3-1 (Vissotto uncontrollable). Cuneo is the fifth time since earning the tie-break 33-35 on resolving the dispute with a wall of Sokolov Mastrangelo.
The tie-break is marked by ace Wijsmans and Vissotto; Cuneo uses them to fly at 3-6. Sokolov (attack) and Kaziyski (cambiopalla and two aces) sign the hook on the 8-8. The winning jokes Djuric dig a furrow between the two teams (14-9). Closes an attack Sokolov (15-11).
"Maybe we could close the game before, in four sets, but I think that goes just as well because what we brought home this evening was playing at the highest level - said at the end of the challenge Radostin Stoytchev -. At 2-0 Cuneo has found a way to get in trouble and he did end up answering blow for blow. I am therefore particularly pleased for the reaction shown by the team in the most difficult moment of the match during the tie-break when we were in for 5-8. In that case we have drawn on all our energies, not only physical but also mental, bringing home two very important points. "
From tomorrow the formation of the World Champion, Italy in Europe and will change again before (and ball) starting to think the trip to Poland in 2012 CEV Volleyball Champions League, Thursday, December 22 to 18 hours in Kedzierzyn-Kozle in fact the start of round return of Pool C. In series A1 Sustenium instead return to the pitch until the day of Santo Stefano in Belluno spending Arena.
Following the match race of the tenth round of regular season play tonight at PalaTrento.
@Kk15: i watched Roma's match last night...and i've got something to say instead! Rome has three huge problems:
1st - usually when they play (and yesterday's match is a blatant example) they ...how can i say? ...si perdono in un bicchier d'acqua... they make a mountain out of a molehill. What i saw yesterday in Roma's players was zero ideas and tons of confusion in their heads and consequently on court!
2nd - they have no bench...especially in crucial positions as setter and opposite. With the sole exception of Cisolla, a player who can change the course of a game (if supported by his team-mates of course), they have no-one who can help the team to save a match when things go amiss.
3rd - they urgently need a valid setter!!! I mean, I don't want to disrespect anyone...but, Boninfante isn't what they need. Okay, I'm not a fan of him (never been), I don't like him as a setter...i think he's a decent player but not an extraordinary one. And if MRoma really wants to vie with the best clubs, like Trento or Macerata, for something important, they need a better setter. So if Giani reads these lines: ehi Giangio, why don't you you give a ring to Valerio and ask him if he can join you and your team next year?? ?
ray...it's not completly true when you say that Zlatanov woke up; Hristo suffered from a pretty bad injury that prevented him from playing 100% (and he didn't touch a ball for a fortnight I think). yesterday, after the match, he was interviewed by italian rai commentators and he said that he' s fully recovering only now, that he's starting feeling in shape but he still needs to get his perfect condition. BTW he played very well, and Nikolov too...but Rome ?... my gosh...i've already said my opinion about them here below ?
I agree raylight! about Nikolov, that pearl named, he increased his level during the match but honestly he wasn't outstanding, while Zlato played an excellent match. I also apreciate a lot Marra.
pearl, I totally agree about the setter. About the opposite, for example vs Ravenna Bencz changed the match... I think he is a valid player, last year he was titoular for more than half season (Poey left the team) and did quite good. He is perfect to be a sub imo, but of course Sabbi is still immature so is like having two subs! But if that means giving a huge chance to increase to a young italian player (and an opposite!) full of pontential, I'm in ? I think it's worthy! Or better, it will be ? (I'm crossing my fingers!)
Absolutly different is the setter situation, both aren't young at all so there are no excuse like "ok I know he doesn't play so well some time, but I let him play to grow up"
I would have preferred a young and "grezzo" setter like Uriarte, (or even better Baranowicz or Falaschi) if that is what we got.... But honestly last year with Treviso I apreciate enough Boninfante, expecially for his determination, but now... =S
I also got that Mezzaroma doesn't have any will to spend more for the team: probably we won't hire a MB - and we really need one! - we didn't hire a good setter (but we spoke during the summer with Valerio, Ball, Grbic...), we didn't even look for people like Conte (or De Cecco, but Conte is a better example because he was in Italy the last season), we let Yosifov go, etc etc...
And I won't be surprised if Zaytsev will leave the team next year.
Kk15: about Nikolov, he is the kind of player who doesn't spike tons of balls during a match and often seems to disappear from the court...but, when "the going gets tough he gets going" ? and he always scores the crucial points in the crucial moments!
As regards the opposite: i'm not the biggest of Bencz's fans ? I would like to be as clear as possible referring to Sabbi: for me this boy HAS TO play always!! I like him a lot; i think he can be an excellent opposite...but, as you perfectly said, he's still too inexperienced with such level and he should have a more experienced sub to take his place when he has a bad day.
The real problem is the setter: I've already said I don't like Boninfante (as a player of course); but honestly i didn't like Uriarte last year either...I would definetely prefer someone like Baranowicz or Falaschi....obviously Valerio would be the perfect solution!! But, if Mezzaroma has no intention of spending additional money on his team...well, I guess we're talking about nothing (aria fritta, direi ;D )!!!
Saitta? I don't know. Among those we named here, he's the one i know the least...but he's sicilian like me, so i could vote for him! ? Baranowicz, as Kk15 suggested, could be fine (but also Falaschi...i like him :>).
Roma lost 17-15 at tie break vs Monza ? But at least Sabbi was named MVP, and we are sure of qualification for 1/8 of the Italian Cup, even if there is a huge difference being 5th or 8th!
Today incredibl, incredible, fantastic rally at 28-27 of San Giustino- Vibo (1 set), I hope somebody recorded it because it was amazing. The commentator said it was the best rally of the 2011-12 Italian Championship so far *.*
Unfortunally San Giustino lost it and the set, but they did incredible digs, and I wasn't surprised to see they won 3-1, they were so determinate!
I watched part of Macerata Sisley, Sisley isn't very interesting, too much Fei-dependet, at least today.
yes dear...i'll forgive you ?
Giulio Sabbi scored 30 individual points in Monza-Roma!!! WOW...I can't understand why this boy plays so bad each time i watch him and plays great when i don't ?((
Trento's strongness is due basically to the skills and the physical strength of wing spikers who thank goodness are not so good receivers, otherwise we might as well stop playing, since this is their onliest true weakness on which opponents prepare games against Trento! ?
Cuneo v Modena will be broadcasted by Raisport1. Fantastic! Hope rai's streaming will work 'cause i want to watch this match ? Have no idea of which match will be on sportube. Another interesting match is Vibo-Monza imo.
yep, whit 721 points was the best scorer last year (but he played all the matches... Stokr missed 4 matches) and he was the best scorer in break-point (but 72% of the break was whit Osmany at service)
Wow! and with Cuneo winning after losing 2-0!! *.*
I can't wait for the highlights!
Trento losing vs Latina was a huge surprise to me, also because Latina wasn't playing well the last matches. Macerata almost risked not to take advantage of that, but eventually they got the first place (finally!), and they are Winter Champions ?
They'll face Roma at 1/8 of Italian Cup. I think that for Rome this is a good thing, at least the trasfert is shorter (and hotter) and we can always hope that it will be a bad serve-day for Macerata ?
Unfortunally I hardly doubt that we will able to offer a nice show vs Macerata, our serve right now is just :SSS Terrible! But we will have an anticipation Satturday the 14th, we will see.
Yesterday Roma lost 3-0 vs Padova playing almost as bad as vs Piacenza. Our serve is simply ridiculous, Zaytsev excluded. Unfortunally also Sabbi yesterday had a terrible day in serve. In attack he started quite bad but later he increased, I wasn't so sure that changing him for Bencz was a great idea, I don't know, Milan played enough well but... For example, of 3 blocks that Rome did (-.-), 2 were made by Sabbi only during the first set.
Because of our hilarious serve and because of Passier our block is a bit a joke (even if we touched a bit).
and lately also in attack we suck a bit ?
Paolucci played instead of Boninfante. He did better than Dante vs Piacenza, but still......
yep, i should said the have an high level league, even if we'll got 16 team next year, but i think we should be higher then a lot of others league like greek's one but they have nice replay and slowmotion... rai got just 2 angle -.-'
Yeah, 12-team playoffs and no relegations makes team do calculations in advance and the level of our league is bound to get worse because of that (including less appeal to top players). I think too many changes have been made in short time, to ideally increase the quality of the matches but in my opinion mostly for making cash from tv rights and sponsors - teams' wishes hadn't been taken into account in these matters - and that's a big fault. It wouldn't be a bad idea to switch back to previous league system,if these are the improvements.
I watched Cuneo-Modena and i really enjoyed it! It was a spectacular match, gorgeously played by both teams!! What a pity for Modena, they were excellent up to half of the third set. But congrats to Cuneo!! Despite Mastro's ankle problem, Wijsmans' bad day, Grbic's neck injury they were able to win a match which seemed to be lost! I liked Baranowicz who had some problems at first, but then he got into his stride; but i simply ADORED N'gapeth who did 2 or 3 incredible digs and dives!!
but I think Galli was right when he said he was angry against N'gapet because he did 1 grat thing and 1 and half disaster... he still have to show his potential
I watched the match on tv....honestly i didn't notice such a big difference between Jan's and Matey's performance, but i find nothing weird if Stokr was awarded as mvp.
handan: i'm a fan of Zaytsev but, trust me, i wouldn't say he's the best mvp of the league so far.
Kjeldhor, you know that when the OH excels from the left, the opposites finds his job easier, right? Stokr is great player and does his job really well, but team work is important too
yeah no doubt about that, but yesterday Matey doesn't excels (maybe is my wrong impression) but yesterday Stokr attacked all the hardest balls whit a extraordinary efficacy
i think yesterday ours hitters got always 2 people as opposite block,
and Djuric never touched a single ball, he didn't understand nothing on deCecco gameplay -.-'
it's impossible because Djuric was on the bench in teh fourth set... Rado switched him whit Burghstaler because Mitar didn't touch a single ball (de cecco played over the top... what a incredible player.. expecially whit Conte)
LOL...Kjeldhor is too late now, i'm tired...my eyes are closing and my brain doesn't work anymore ? Can we go on talking about this "triangle" tomorrow?? ?
Macerata is playing so well lately, today they didn't serve at their best but still they made a great impression to me, like vs Fenerbache. They have an impression % of counter-attack ended well, like 62%, they played more than 30% of the attacks with the MB (great game from Podrascanin) thanks to the reception and to Travica distribuition, they almost always ended the long rallies... I loved them because who is in the team, now I love them also because how they play... I hope they can keep this level in the most important macthes (e.g. in ItalianCup final4, even if there is a part of mine that hope they won't be there because that's mean Rome will... but I don't think we deserve the Final4, honestly)
And a special mention for Parodi: best player of the last two matches... Now he is playing not simply "well" but "great", actually making the difference. if during the same rally he didn't put the ball down the first chance, he did it the second one. He is also coming back with his serve.
@handan, I agree with pearl, I'm a superfan of Zaytsev but I think he can do more honestly...He is playing well but not too much constantly. Unfortunally Boninfante's sets don't help him=.=
I guess Berruto will have an hard time when he will have to decide who'll be in the starting six...
And even if I'm not a fan of Kovar, I have to admit he is playng defintly better than Maruotti (that ended in bench the last two matches, btw, and that often is around 35% in attack). I think he should be the 4th OH of italian NT... unfortunally he doesn't seem to me to be such attached to the "blue shirt", but... He improved in reception (I'll say he is better than Sava...), he has a very good serve, good block, good attack (may be not the smartes type of attack, but effective)...
Sabbi has a great game and a bad one, a good one and an horrible one... ?
It's a pity when he is not playing so well in attack, because in that case he needs to be changed with Bencz, but he has a better serve and a better block...
@Kk15: "I think he (Kovar) should be the 4th OH of italian NT... unfortunally he doesn't seem to me to be such attached to the "blue shirt"....Of course he doesn't, he's not italian ? one thing is Zaytsev or Travica.... but Kovar is a totally different story.
Zaytsev might leave Roma 'cause he doesn't think there's a valid project for the team :( If that is true I will be very sorry...but, on the other hand, I can understand this guy who wants to improve and above all wants to win something important :(
I only hope he won't go to Trento: this isn't the right choice for him! He needs a club where he can be a first-string!! Not even Macerata, at the moment, is a valid option: if he has to leave Rome to sit on the bench as a replacement of Juantorena/Kazyiski or Parodi/Savani, it is better for him to stay where he is imo.
Yes, he will go only to be a starter, that's mean if one of the guys you mentioned will leave the team (I guess there are better chances about Trento) he will go there. Otherwise somewhere else, I just hope not abroad...
everything is possible, Osmany is a great player and he already won everything whit Trento, if he want leave Trento to try to win whit another team i'm sure Mosna'll sell him this summer while he's still under contract
Guys, we already discussed about this matter of Juantorena going to Kazan and Zaytsev taking his place in Trento, do you remember? No news arrived in this sense...but, i confirm what i already wrote in my previous post: if Osmany really goes to Russia, then Zaytsev in Trento makes a sense...otherwise is pointless! He'd better stay in Rome 'till the end of the season and then search for a good club that allows him to play as a titular and at a high level.
Yes guys, but after months of fitting with the team now we expect him to be ready to play as in his potential, and that's not happening. I think he has to spike many balls to do his best, but seems the only player with the feeling still low is Esko who doesn't trust him so much. In the backrow plays he is essential to the balance of the team, though, compared for example to Kooy.
Last week Martino was interviewed in the press room and they asked him some opinions about what he could still improve. He answered he considers himself a volleyball player (as work) and not as an athlete. He thinks to volleyball just for the time he's training or playing a match, so before and after that moments he thinks about how to enjoy with friends. In my opinion he's not changed very much in his mind.
I'm not so sure I want someone that doesn't consider him as an athlete to join the italian NT. Expecially not for the Olympics!!
BTW, @champion, of course Zaytsev as sub of Juantorena makes sense to Trento, but defintly not to Ivan! He HAS to be titoular ?
pearl, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him in Russia, but I really hope he'll stay in Italy...
BTW, it seems that Juantorena will stay in Trento, at least for what I read in the newspaper. (I don't remeber which one).
I think he have to hope for Kaizisky to go somewhere else. Honestly I think he would be a more natural replacement for Matey that for Osmany.
Or he has to hope that Savani will leave Macerata, but I guess it won't...
@KK15: i don't think Matey is going to leave Trento. I have a friend from Trento (and i'm not talking about Kjeld :>) who told me that Matey has recently bought a house there and he's having this house restored 'cause he wants to stay in Trento also after he has withdrawn.
oh yes...Meoni is a great setter...no comparison with Boninfante! Good thing that Mauro decided to regenerate our NT with new and young players...Valerio was too old to go on playing with the Azzurri!! LOL
Pearl, Vermiglio is class 1976 and is too old, but Mastro is 1975, Fox '78 and they are in NT
(and usually the setter can play well some more years then mb or opposite)
Of course when I can't go to the Palatiziano it happens that we win 3-2 vs Cuneo, last year vs Macerata... How lucky I am XD
But I'm soooo glad we won, because it is Cuneo, because now we will be more confident on us for the match vs Macerata (even if a part of me can't wait to watch Macerata in Italian Cup Final4 in Rome ?), and because in this period at the beginning of the championship we were at 0 points, while now we got 3 points. Little improvments ?
And our win over Cuneo prevent them to get the second place.
Macerata, I now you're tired, but DAMN!!!! That was even a more surprising result that Roma-Cuneo!!
@Kjeld Nono, anche perché in coppa giochiamo con Monza :) .. hai fatto un po di confusione :P
Sulla pagina ufficiale fb dei tifosi di Modena è stato pubblicato un post dei bb che riportava il loro sdegno riguardo alla Coppa Italia, in quanto la lega ha riservato per la final four di Roma solamente 36 biglietti per persone disabili+accompagnatore (quindi effettivamente 18 persone) .Per quanto riguarda i 25€, vorrei poterli pagare io (sono ingressi ridotti) .. intero sono 50€ per una giornata e 80 per due giorni..
Mi sa che il pienone se lo scordano..
Ti rimando al forum di Trentinovolley che come noi, condivide. http://www.trentinovolley.it/forum/forum/4-tutte-le-discussioni/137219-da-forum-modena-comunicato-bb.html
yes, too much expensive! I'm waiting to see if I can have a sale via MRomaVolley Fans club... (because to have FIPAV riduct tickets I have to cross the city twice and I really don't have time these days =.=)
Also because I can watch only the semifinals I think...
BTW, casamodena, did you read Pasini article about Martino? What do you say? ?
He wrote about a possile "Martino case": pratically, he believes that there night be problems with Martino because, even if he is a way better receiver than both Kooy and Anderson, he sits on the bench. And he wrote that someone told him that Martino said "I prefer stay on the bench"
BTW, Trento according to the score outplayed Vibo, and Macerata outplayed Rome. In the first and second sets there was equilibrium till 16ish, then Macerata flow away, while the third was almost a monolouge by Macerata, mostly thanks by Macerata itself, I'll say. There was only a moment when Rome being 4 point under reach -1 (9-8) because Parodi failed an attack and then was blocked, but beside that Macerata (and Parodi too, expept in this two occasions he was supereffective in attack and great in reception) was close to be perfect.
Ah, Savani helped with 5 aces (and a very dangerous run serve).
In Rome I'm still very unsatisfacted by Boninfante.
ps: I have a very technical comment: what a lovely smile Parodi has <3
OMG while I was writing BELLUNO WON 3-1 VS CUNEO!
Well, Cuneo wasn't playing great lately, but still O.O (and at home, with their wonderful public!!)
I wonder if Ngapeth played... I'll check.
Savani MVP of Macerata-Roma, with good stats in defence, 5 aces, insane stats in attack ?Actually Parodi was blocked 2 and did 3 errors in attack. But 67%. But why the hell Parodi riceived 23 times and Savani only 13?! I can't understand Roma tactic in serve =.=
Macerata 10 aces (with 14 errors), 5 by Sava, 3 by Parodi (during the dinner I must have lost two of them!), 1 Stankovic, 1 Podrascanin. Many aces on Zaytsev.
poor Nik ?
But I read that Cuneo played a very low-level match, with no agonism and determination (leggo che hanno giocato in modo spento e svogliato)
The team that was in the Italian Cup the last to year and that is the last winner of this Cup, won't defend it.
I think it is a very big failure for Cuneo.
I saw only partes of the match, but for what I watch it was an intense and fighted match. In the third sets Trento almost always conduct, but Macerata always came back, until the last points of Trento (aces of Juantorena for the 23th and 24th point)
Trento was superb, with everyone (also Brughstaler that went in for Djuric). They did several insane digs and closed few incredible ball in attack. Stokr is probably my MVP (but I didn't watch the whole match...)
Macerata played good but not on his best (while Trento probably played at his best, I'll say, and that is a good point for Macerata): they committed too many mistake in serve (like the double of Trento... Parodi alone did 6 errors!) and probably in general didn't serve that well, and they can be a bit better in block imo, but this is hard to say because it depend a lot also on the other team... And they did few great defense and nice actions too, but didn't dig how is in their skills imo. While Trento saved a lot.
But beside general consideration, the thing Macerata has to complain the most about their match is losing the second 24-26 set after leading 24-21 (or even 20..)! Parodi mistake in serve (one of thousand...) at the match point send Stokr in serve, and he did several good serve in a row. Macerata received quite well but imo Travica did few mistakes, both in lucidity and precision: precision to the spikers (too far from the net) and lucidity about chosing to set to Stankovic that had been defended twice in the previous 10 minutes. In fact he was defened another time (great job of Bari) and then blocked by Brughstaler. Travica could have chose a pipe or a precise and fast sets to the wings... And Trento always followed them for the whole set! They had it in their hands!>.<
Then in the third set it was Macerata tourn to follow Trento, (more than once they were like -4/3 and then again -1) and at 19-21 Omrcen made a mistake in attack (19-22), then Osmany did 2 aces (the first on Parodi, with a bit of luck I think, it seemed to me that the ball touched the net, so it changed a bit the direction but it was very fast so Parodi was just hitten by the ball), and one between Exiga and Parodi (again, and incredible fast serve). Match closed by a bad errors of Parodi in attack. That honestly exept the serve played quite well (not great)beside what it can seem from my words.
Ok, I've done xDDD Sorry for bothering you, I just needed to comment it xD
So for the second time in a row three of the first 4 teams lost the game: only Trento kept winning (as always ?
At least Macerata was lucky that Cuneo lost, so they kept the second place. But at the same time Cuneo was lucky that Modena didn't win, so they kept few points of advantages?
Roma won 3-0 vs Vibo, I couldn't go but friends told me it was a veeery boring match, exept for the victory. Good match by Sabbi, 3 aces, 2 blocks, 19 attacks, I'm glad he recovered from the ankle injury?
Vibo Valentia-Piacenza 0-3 ? Well, final score is pretty eloquent: too strong Piacenza and too weak Vibo. I'm afraid they'll do the same as last year: good job up to half-season and then one defeat after another ? What a pity...but honestly Piacenza deserved victory: super Zlatanov and super Papi!!
marchst: I also can't explain such a big and quick change with Piacenza as well as i can't understand why Vibo is unable to keep the same standards in terms of results and performance up to the end on the league and why they start declining at mid-season.
We think Vibo is remained without Coscione to date and in the mechanisms of this team is very important.
you'll see that now that it's back in time to resume the shape, Vibo will restart to win.
pearl, I think this is small change of Piacenza, look their results so far in the stats. They had only four games which they lost with difference - Cuneo, Belluno, Ravenna at home and Modena as guests. I don't count Trentino here. In all other matches they fought very hard and lost sets 24:26, 25:27 and 23:25.
Yes Ray you're right, but even if at 27-25, alost set is always a lost set; you can lose a match playing hard (24:26, 27:29, 32:34...it's just anexample not real score) but, at the end of the way, despite you fought very hard, final score will say you've lost 3-0!!
What impress me of Piacenza is their reverse in terms of positive results!
Modena-Padova 3-0. Amazing match, really! Dennis was fantastic, but very good performance by Piscopo too (4 blocks...3 of which in a row). Martino played in the last part of the match and he did some excellent things!!
Yeah good match. Piscopo 6 blocks and 100% attack so MVP. Great match by Dennis too, he was around 60s%, and Martino (who honestly seem to be a new player now: strong serve and spike aswell as vertical - good reception). Sooo high Anderson! This guy is capable of spiking pipes over the block in my opinion. Last two ones were terrifying, with the ball on the 4th meter (I please somebody who recorded the match to post them here, thx)
Cuneo-Macerata 3-2!
Macerata ouplayed Cuneo for two sets, then Cuneo did the same for the next two. In the tie break Cuneo started a bit better, then was odd, then Cuneo did better. Macerata was close to a nice come back: from 11-14-->13-14, with ace of Parodi), then Parodi served out =.= I knew that, damn! Also during the tie break he did an ace (I think for the first advantage of Macerata since the second set, 7-6) and then a mistake, so typical...
Great Ngapeth imo, in general very confident Cuneo from the third set exept for Wjisman.
Macerata did many mistakes and played badly in attack, but they kept defending well and fight almost always imo. Great defense from both.
I still think that I serve better than Lebl, ray ?
Kjeldhor, it was balanced eventually, but in general that match was everything but balanced. exept in the middle of the tie break, there were always many points between the two teams, sometimes with Macerata leading (first two sets), sometimes with Cuneo leading (third and fourth sets, plus mostly of the tie break)
BTW, there was a very nice moment during the match: after the end of the action Mastro (I didn't see it very well) hitted Travica with the ball, and while Travica was lieing (?) down, Mastro run in Macerata court, hugged Travica while he was still lieing on the floor, then helped him to stand up and hugged him again very friendly. It was really sweet ? He also wrote a public excuse on twitter ?
And there is also a "bad" pic: few days ago I read on fb that Cuneo fans was thinking to make a "striscione" (poster?) for Simone.
What truly happned is:
- there weren't "striscioni" for Simone (for what I could see)
- when he was serving, they whistled him like hell (but I didn't watch the beginning, when the spiker presents the players)
- they wrote a huge "striscione" for Giuliani: Giuliani good coach, but without face and honor. Quite nasty, don't you think? Considering that he is the coach that lead Cuneo at the first scudetto (at his first year!), at the CEVcup, at the Supercup, at the Italian Cup, plus 2 finals (Italian Cup and Scudetto) and 1/4 of CL...
after losing the title they expected a rematch whit the same coach who lead they at their first title, it's is understandable (still think offensive poster never should be showed)
@marchst There would be so much to say that we'd fill the forum at all. In my opinion just the end of our wonderful league, which Lega destroyed year after year.
I can understand they want to cut down on spending considering the bad financial crisis worldwide and in our country above all; but why do they have to stop promotions and demotions from A1 to A2 and from A2 to B1?? What are the teams playing for, then??
@Casamodena perfectly agree for the interests of the few it is destroying a wonderful championship. Then to save those who? Who is going to disappear equally!
16 team which play (in best cases) every 5-6 days from september to may like robots for no reason because the worst you can get is not to play playoffs. All other 12 team do. In brief, more costs for clubs, more effort for players for what? but above all, WHY all this?
@marchst scusa se rispondo a domanda con domanda, ma cosa vuoi , sono senza parole..
PS. domani sera fate piano, per favore ?
@casamodena tranquillo saremmo buoni, basta che non fate brutti scherzi voi!
@pearl in poche parole si vuole bloccare le retrocessioni per almeno tre anni aumentando il numero delle squadre dalle attuali 14 a 16 ,18 ,20 ,il problema di fondo è ...quali stimoli avranno le squadre senza obiettivi e di conseguenza che campionato ci propineranno?
Grbic ha detto (non marchst): W lo sport, la competizione sportiva e le persone/società serie, che sanno fare i passi in base alle proprie gambe, DA SOLI.
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And Sabbi closed an incredible rally at 15-15 of third set, standing ovation in the Palazzetto?
What a pity I can't record the match ?
BTW, Mosna apologized in a very kind way, I apreciate a lot ?
PS. Ti ho mandato un MP sul "fattaccio"...poi non ne parlo più ?
“Sinceramente preoccupato per il disappunto espresso dalla M.Roma Volley per bocca del suo allenatore, questa mattina, dopo aver attentamente guardato il filmato dell’ultima battuta del match di ieri sera ho voluto sentire la ricostruzione dei fatti ed il parere dei miei Dirigenti, dei Tecnici e di Juantorena – spiega – . Ho potuto appurare che si è trattato di un gesto tecnico che il giocatore usa provare in allenamento e che alcuni compagni, a mo’ di scommessa, o di sfida, credevano lui non avrebbe mai tentato in partita. Da qui, certamente con leggerezza, considerando che si era all’ultimo punto, in casa altrui, e che proprio il suo servizio aveva creato la differenza tra i due sestetti, la decisione di battere “alla coreana”. Non c’è dubbio: si è trattato di una scelta discutibile che, calata in quel particolare momento del match, poteva essere evitata. Tengo però a sottolineare che il nostro atleta ha effettuato un gesto tecnico non proprio semplice e che appartiene al repertorio di pochi (non una battuta “da sotto” come ha scritto qualcuno). Mi risulta che, già sul posto, Dirigenti, Tecnici e lo stesso Juantorena, pur spiegando le ragioni di tutto ciò, abbiamo provveduto ripetutamente a scusarsi con Atleti e Dirigenti romani che, in questa, come in altre occasioni, ci hanno ospitato con grande generosità, a sottolineare i sentimenti di stima ed amicizia che, da sempre, legano i due Club”.
“Sento a questo punto di dover esprimere io stesso, in prima persona, le scuse più sincere a nome della Società, dato che per motivi di lavoro non ero presente al PalaTiziano – conclude Mosna – ; vorrei ribadire che l’episodio non voleva essere irriverente nei confronti di nessuno, tanto meno del pubblico della Capitale che ha applaudito e sostenuto le prodezze di tutti i protagonisti di una bella ed equilibrata sfida. Se fraintendimento c’è stato, però, di certo lo abbiamo procurato noi ed allora è giusto che Trentino Volley si prenda la responsabilità sull’accaduto. Ho invitato in passato e continuerò ad invitare in futuro i nostri atleti ed il nostro staff tecnico ad evitare ogni possibile atteggiamento che possa essere oggetto di polemica o innescare atteggiamenti poco consoni al nostro sport, caratterizzato da persone che si rispettano e stimano anche nel pieno della tensione agonistica e che sanno sempre complimentarsi l’un l’altro al termine di ogni gara”.
PS1: Nothing to say about the human being seen as player.
PS2: Rival supporters intended with a sports-like meaning, of course.
PS3: Making an example, for me, Mikhaylov is a champion.
This is my point of view, glad to read yours.
Please, please... no words. Really a poor show this time, my dear volleyball aliens.
@foreigns Sorry, I only wanted to say what my opinion is.
@pearl Modena is in a difficult moment. There's not a single game where our setter is sure to set the ball to a reliable attacker. For example, in the match against San Giustino, Anderson (arrived back from WC only 24hrs before) scored 28 points with monster attack-receive %s. 3 days later against Belluno Bagnoli had continuously to put him on the bench because of terrible mistakes.
Luckily Dennis played a good game, after nervous discussion with the supporters during the week about his weak (haha sorry ?) performance with S.Giustino. Like every tiebreak, the match was decided by episodes (3 ace in a row by Sala) even if yes, we were near to lose it on the score of 3-11 cause other trivial concentration faults who took us onto 13-14 followed with an ace serve by Fei (seen out by the referees). Neverthless to add better for us it ended this way! ? (davvero una ladrata cmq, ci meritavamo che riaprissero il match)
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c1eabdb/n/Copra_Piacenza_0-3_CMC_Ravenna.part1.rar
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0b8bb3/n/Copra_Piacenza_0-3_CMC_Ravenna.part2.rar
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0b8ec2/n/Copra_Piacenza_0-3_CMC_Ravenna.part3.rar
@casamodena: mmmm, but has Dennis' situation been solved, or still there's some tension there?
@pearl: Zaytsev was super, Maruotti played quite good!
While we have a bad new fro Bjelica: he has a broken "menisco", so he can't jump... now he'll have to stop for about a month and a half as far as I read, he will be treated (I'm not sure if also operated...) in Bologna (like Parodi, I guess it the same place...?).
Now we only have Lebl, that sometimes can play quite well but his is not really improving (notghing compared to Bjelica serve...), and the australian MB Passier, that seemed to me better than I expected, I don't know if we are looking for someone else...
BTW, I hope we can win these 4 matches coming (Monza seems - apparently!! - to be the tougher, expecially with the couple Conte-De Cecco, but as always it is really hard to make predictions in our championship, fortunally!) and got a nice position for the 1/8 of the Italian Cup... It will be a dream to be in the final4, since it will be in Rome, but in Palalottomatica, that is more than the double of Palatiziano *.* And may be this time I'll try to get a ticket in the first circle ?
@casamodena: thanx for your explanation ? it's pretty clear I had misunderstood ?
Well, I hope to be disproved by facts, but actually he has nothing to do with Martinos we remember in Macerata and Milano, reception still not much accurate as well as attack, he's now playing cause Kooy's injury forcing him out up to the end of 2011. I'm disappointed about him, but also confident because we'll need him
You know HOW MUCH I love him ?
I had few (useless, at the end) discussion on Pasaini's blog with few Martino big lovers (one or two are defintly girls), about Martino coming back in indoor and about Martino GREAT(-.-) results in beach volleyball... For example I reported in a comment - with link of FIVB website - a list of Martino and Martino-Nicolai position in the rankings and their result this year, and I did the same with the couple Lupo-Nicolai, to proove that L-N reached more than M-N and to proove that since Nicolai is the costant, Martino can't be the one that we have to thanks if italian male becah vb reached smth this year, but it wasn't enough for the pro-Martino commentators, because he is so good!! (or better... so God!)
And, you know... everybody like to be right ? even if I wish him I'm wrong. But not when Modena plays vs Roma and Macerata ?
You know HOW MUCH I love him ?
I had few (useless, at the end) discussion on Pasaini's blog with few Martino big lovers (one or two are defintly girls), about Martino coming back in indoor and about Martino GREAT(-.-) results in beach volleyball... For example I reported in a comment - with link of FIVB website - a list of Martino and Martino-Nicolai position in the rankings and their result this year, and I did the same with the couple Lupo-Nicolai, to proove that L-N reached more than M-N and to proove that since Nicolai is the costant, Martino can't be the one that we have to thanks if italian male becah vb reached smth this year, but it wasn't enough for the pro-Martino commentators, because he is so good!! (or better... so God!)
And, you know... everybody like to be right ? even if I wish him I'm wrong. But not when Modena plays vs Roma and Macerata ?
English version for our non-italian-speaker friends (and especially raylight ?):
Guys, I don't know what the hell is going on with my internet connection but I haven't watched anything for two days at least...streaming simply doesn't work no matter the browser i use... in short, i wanted to see Vibo's match today but i'm not able to, so if any of you can, please write something here after the game (have no idea whether Kjeldhor can tape it or not) ? I'm interested in Barone's performance mainly (if he plays, of course). Thanx in advance!
BTW, I still have the impression that only few people in Cuneo care about Gulinelli's word...
Cuneo is lazier, sloopier (I'm not sure this term actually exist xD) than before, unfortunally.
Roma won 3-1 not playing well as far as I read, but the 3 points are what we care the most ? (and the 5th place)
Milan Bencz was nominated MVP, I'm so glad about that because I really apreciate the guy, he is committed! He is also a good player that often scored a lot of point for the team last year as titoular (>20 for match, usually) - today he contribuited with 25, plus 23 by Zaytsev. I think is difect was (I don't know if it still is) committe mistakes in crucial moments, or more mistake in a row (like being blocked twice in a row).
Another incredible new: Lebl scored an ACE. He did 20 serves, 1 error, 1 ace. WOW xD
You can find Monza-San Giustino on sportube... (It ended 3-2)
It's really curious that the first time Conte was allowed to play with Monza, was vs San Giustino!
I read often comment about Raphael colled like "high-ball-to-Kaizisky-and-Juantorena-Raphael", but I don't agree. May be he isn't such creative as Bruno (he is not), but he is so precise imo... If I compare hime to Travica... Well, Birarelli is rarely as effective as in Trento in attack playing with Italy... And I also love Raphael's pipes, even if today once or twice (I think once with K and once with J) he didn't set the pipe very well, but it doesn't matter.
Trento, 18 dicembre 2011
Lo scontro al vertice del decimo turno di Serie A1 Sustenium premia l’Itas Diatec Trentino, capace di superare per al tie break i rivali di sempre della Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo al termine di una sfida che, come da pronostico, ha regalato grandi emozioni e momenti di altissima pallavolo sino all’ultimo scambio.
Per la formazione di Radostin Stoytchev è un successo di rilievo, che riscatta il passaggio a vuoto di mercoledì sera contro lo Zaksa Kedzierzyn-Kozle (nuovamente avversario dei gialloblù giovedì sera in Polonia) ma che permette al tempo stesso l’ulteriore allungo in cima alla classifica del campionato: Kaziyski e compagni guidano infatti ora la graduatoria con due punti su Macerata, vittoriosa 3-0 a Padova, e tre sulla stessa Cuneo. A tre giornate dalla conclusione del girone d’andata un piccolo ma significativo passo verso il titolo di campione d’inverno e soprattutto verso la testa di serie numero uno nella griglia dei quarti di finale di Coppa Italia 2012 è stato quindi compiuto.
Davanti ai quasi quattromila spettatori presenti stasera al PalaTrento e a quelli della guest star della giornata Marco Melandri (il motociclista è stato protagonista nel pre-partita di un simpatico scambio casco-maglietta Itas Diatec Trentino con capitan Kaziyski) i padroni di casa sono quindi tornati subito sui propri livelli di gioco e lo hanno fatto sin dal primo parziale, mettendo Cuneo spalle al muro per almeno due set, trascinati dalla qualità del proprio servizio (5 dei tredici ace totali sono arrivati solo nel periodo d’apertura) e dalla continuità della propria palla alta. Cuneo ha dimostrato carattere da grande squadra fra terzo e quarto set, quando trascinata dall’ex Vissotto (alla fine 26 punti con 4 ace e due muri) aveva fatto segnare i punti della rimonta. Il tie break è stato poi condotto dai piemontesi sino al 5-8 prima che Kaziyski e Djuric si scatenassero mettendo la parola fine al match.
Proprio il capitano non poteva scegliere modo migliore per festeggiare la sua duecentesima partita in maglia trentina: i due ace nel quinto set uniti ai 26 punti totali con il 56% a rete e due muri gli sono valsi il titolo di mvp della serata. Accanto a lui come al solito su ottimi livelli anche Juantorena (21 palloni vincenti con il 50%, tre ace e due muri) e di Djuric, scatenato in attacco (67%) ed incisivissimo fra muro e servizio (9 punti da questi due fondamentali). Positivo anche l’ingresso di Sokolov (titolare in pianta stabile dal terzo set in poi al posto di uno Stokr con percentuali basse), ben ispirato dalle regia di Raphael che ha spesso avuto la palla fra le mani grazie alla bella serata in ricezione di Andrea Bari (71%).
La cronaca del match. Le due squadre si presentano al cospetto di un PalaTrento vicino al sold out entrambe in formazioni tipo; ad uscire meglio dai blocchi di partenza è Cuneo che sfrutta la buona vena iniziale di Ngapteh (tre punti di cui uno a muro) per giungere al primo time out tecnico avanti 7-8. Un errore di Juantorena in attacco e un muro di Fortunato su Kaziyski alla ripresa del gioco allargano il divario (7-10); i gialloblù impattano subito (10-10) grazie a Stokr e poi passano a condurre (14-12) sfruttando due errori in attacco di Vissotto ed un ace dello stesso Osmany. Il muro dell’italo-cubano su Vissotto e l’ace di Raphael su Wijmsans spingono Trento al massimo vantaggio (21-17): Gulinelli chiede tempo ma ciò non basta per schiarire le idee ai suoi; la prima frazione si chiude sul 25-20 in favore dei padroni di casa.
Il secondo parziale si apre ancora nel segno dei padroni di casa che con Juantorena al servizio mettono da parte quasi subito quattro break point (6-2), sfruttando le difficoltà in ricezione di Ngapeth ed il muro di Birarelli su Wijsmans. Il giovane francese sbanda anche in attacco e l’Itas Diatec Trentino vola sul +6 (9-3); nella fase centrale anche il servizio piemontese presta il fianco (troppi errori e nessun ace) e allora la squadra di Stoytchev ne approfitta per realizzare un altro break point (15-8) con Kaziyski. Il finale di set vede Trento controllare bene l’ampio vantaggio (19-11 e 22-14) e portarsi sul 2-0 con facilità approfittando ancora una volta dell’ottima vena di Juantorena che proprio negli ultimi punti lascia spazio a Lanza (25-19).
Nella terza frazione Cuneo prova a partire forte (3-5) affidandosi ad Ngapeth ma gli iridati, che ora schierano Sokolov al posto di Stokr, reagiscono subito e trovano in fretta la parità (7-7). Nella fase centrale i break point che fanno la differenza: Kaziyski e lo stesso Tsvetan firmano l’allungo sul +3 (15-12), Juantorena va a segno al servizio per il +4 (16-12); Cuneo barcolla ma riesce a rimanere in piedi e anzi con gli ace di Grbic (su Kaziyski per il 18-16), Wijsmans e Vissotto si riporta avanti 21-22. E’ proprio l’ex di turno più fresco a procurarsi il primo set ball (22-24) che poi Ngapeth realizza immediatamente ancora con la battuta (22-25).
Nel quarto set Stoytchev conferma Sokolov in campo ma proprio un errore del bulgaro favorisce la fuga ospite (1-3) che poi diventa più concreta sul 2-6 grazie ad un paio di prodezze di Ngapeth. Trento cerca di rifarsi sotto (8-9) sfruttando le alte percentuali in attacco di Kaziyski ma il tocco da seconda linea (!) di Grbic e l’ace di Vissotto rimettono terreno fra le due squadre (9-12). Con il brasiliano sugli scudi Cuneo dilaga (12-16) ma poi si lascia riprendere dalla tenacia gialloblù che arriva fino al 21-22 grazie agli attacchi di Kaziyski e dal muro di Raphael. La contesa di protrae ai vantaggi con Trento che annulla tre palle set (da 22-24 a 25-25) ma poi non ne sfrutta ben set per chiudere la contesa sul 3-1 (Vissotto incontenibile). Alla quinta occasione è Cuneo allora a guadagnare il tie break risolvendo la contesa sul 33-35 con un muro di Mastrangelo su Sokolov.
Il tie break è contrassegnato dagli ace di Wijsmans e Vissotto; Cuneo li sfrutta per volare sul 3-6. Sokolov (attacco) e Kaziyski (cambiopalla e due ace) firmano l’aggancio sull’8-8. Le battute vincenti di Djuric scavano un solco fra le due squadre (14-9). Chiude un attacco di Sokolov (15-11).
“Forse avremmo potuto chiudere la partita anche prima, in quattro set, ma credo che vada bene anche così perché quella che abbiamo portato a casa stasera è stata una partita di altissimo livello – ha dichiarato al termine della sfida Radostin Stoytchev – . Sul 2-0 Cuneo ha trovato il modo per metterci in difficoltà e lo ha fatto sino alla fine rispondendo colpo su colpo. Sono particolarmente contento quindi per la reazione dimostrata dalla squadra nel momento più difficile del match, quando durante il tie break ci siamo trovati sotto per 5-8. In quel caso abbiamo attinto a tutte le nostre energie, non solo fisiche ma anche mentali portando a casa due punti assolutamente importanti”.
Da domani la formazione Campione del Mondo, d’Europa e d’Italia cambierà nuovamente fronte (e pallone) iniziando a pensare alla trasferta polacca di 2012 CEV Volleyball Champions League; giovedì 22 dicembre ad ore 18 a Kedzierzyn-Kozle inizierà infatti il girone di ritorno della Pool C. In Serie A1 Sustenium invece si tornerà in campo solo il giorno di Santo Stefano alla Spes Arena di Belluno.
Di seguito il tabellino della gara del decimo turno di regular season giocata questa sera al PalaTrento.
Itas Diatec Trentino-Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo 3-2
(25-20, 25-19, 22-25, 33-35, 15-11)
ITAS DIATEC TRENTINO: Kaziyski 26, Djuric 17, Raphael 3, Juantorena 21, Birarelli 8, Stokr 4, Bari (L); Colaci (L), Della Lunga, Lanza, Sokolov 12, Zygadlo. N.e. Burgsthaler. All. Radostin Stoytchev.
BRE BANCA LANNUTTI: Wijsmans 16, Fortunato 3, Vissotto 26, Ngapeth 23, Mastrangelo 8, Grbic 5, Henno (L); Baranowicz, Caceres, Patriarca 2, Rossi 1. N.e. Van Lankvelt e Pieri. All. Flavio Gulinelli.
ARBITRI: Tanasi di Noto (Siracusa) e Saltalippi di Perugia.
DURATA SET: 26’, 26’, 29’, 39’, 23’; tot 2h e 23’.
NOTE: 3.998 spettatori per un incasso di 41.854 euro. Itas Diatec Trentino: 14 muri, 13 ace, 15 errori in battuta, 12 errori azione, 50% in attacco, 62% (32%) in ricezione. Bre Banca Lannutti: 9 muri, 10 ace, 19 errori in battuta, 10 errori azione, 52% in attacco, 49% (24%) in ricezione. Mvp Kaziyski.
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The classic THE TENTH ROUND IS RESOLVED TO TIE BREAK: WIN 3-2 ON LONGER AND CLASSIFICATION WEDGE
Trento, December 18, 2011
The clash at the top of the tenth round of Series A1 Sustenium rewards Itas Trentino Diatec, able to overcome in order to break the tie rivals of Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo at the end of a challenge, as the odds, he brought forth great emotions and high volleyball until the last moments of exchange.
For the formation of Radostin Stoytchev is a major success, which rescues the move to Wednesday night against the vacuum Zaks Kedzierzyn-Kozle (yellow and blue of the opponent again Thursday night in Poland) but at the same time allows further stretch the top of the Championship standings: Kaziyski and fellow guide in fact now the ranking with two points of Macerata, 3-0 victory at Padua, and three on the same Cuneo. Three days after the conclusion of the first round a small but significant step towards the championship title in the winter and especially towards the seeded number one in the grid of the Italian Cup quarter-finals of 2012 was then performed.
In front of nearly four thousand spectators tonight at PalaTrento and those of the guest star of the day Marco Melandri (the motorcyclist was featured in the pre-game exchange of a helmet-friendly shirt with Captain Itas Trentino Diatec Kaziyski) the hosts are then immediately returned on their levels of play and have done since the first part, Cuneo put a corner for at least two sets, carried away by the quality of its service (5 out of thirteen total ace came only in the opening period) and the continuity of their high ball. Cuneo has shown great character to team between the third and fourth sets, when they dragged former Vissotto (26 points at the end with 4 aces and two walls) had to score points in the comeback. The tie break was then taken up by the Piedmontese to 5-8 before it was unleashed Kaziyski Djuric and putting an end to the match.
Just the captain could not have chosen better way to celebrate its two hundredth game in top thirty: two aces in the fifth set combined with 26 total points with 56% and two mesh walls have earned him the title of MVP of the evening. Next to him as usual excellent levels of well Juantorena (21 balls with the winning 50%, three aces and two walls) and Djuric, unleashed in attack (67%) and wall-incisivissimo Service (9 points from these two fundamental ). Sokolov also positive input (the holder on a permanent basis from the third set in, then instead of a Stokr with low rates), inspired by well-directed by Raphael, which has often had the ball in his hands thanks to the lovely evening in receipt of Andrea Bari (71%).
The chronicle of the match. The two teams have in front of a sold-out PalaTrento close to both type formations; best out of the starting blocks Cuneo is exploiting the good vena initial Ngapteh (three points in a wall) to reach the first time technically out ahead 7-8. An error Juantorena in attack and a wall of Fortunato Kaziyski of the resumption of the game are widening the gap (7-10); the gialloblù impact right away (10-10) and then pass through Stokr to lead (14-12) using two errors and an ace attack Vissotto Osmany the same. The wall of the Italian-Cuban Vissotto and the ace of Raphael Wijmsans Trent push to maximum advantage (21-17): Gulinelli asks what time but not enough to lighten his ideas, the first fraction is close to 25 - 20 in favor of the landlords.
The second part opens again in the sign of the hosts who Juantorena with the service set aside almost immediately four break points (6-2), taking advantage of the difficulties in receiving Ngapeth and the wall of Birarelli Wijsmans. The young Frenchman lurches in the attack and flies on Itas Trentino Diatec +6 (9-3), the service also at the central Piedmont opens the way (too many errors and no aces) and then the team took the opportunity to make Stoytchev another break points (15-8) with Kaziyski. The final set saw Trent-check the large advantage (19-11 and 22-14) and go 2-0 up easily once again taking advantage of the excellent vein of Juantorena in the last few points that leaves room for Lanza (25 -19).
In the third fraction as strong proof Cuneo (3-5) relying on Ngapeth but the championship, which now line up in place of Stokr Sokolov, react immediately and quickly find the parity (7-7). In the middle of the break points that make the difference: Tsvetan Kaziyski and the same sign on the stretch +3 (15-12), Juantorena it hits the service for the +4 (16-12); Cuneo staggers but manages to stand and even with ace Grbic (Kaziyski of the 18-16), is shown below Vissotto Wijsmans and 21-22. And 'their former duty to obtain fresher September 1 ball (22-24) then immediately realizes Ngapeth even with the beat (22-25).
Stoytchev confirms Sokolov in the fourth set but just an error in the field of Bulgarian guest favors the escape (1-3), which becomes more concrete about 2-6 thanks to a couple of feats of Ngapeth. Trent is seeking to rebuild under (8-9) taking advantage of the high percentage Kaziyski attack but the second touch-line (!) Of Grbic and ace Vissotto endanger ground between the two teams (9-12). With the Brazilian shields Cuneo on ramps (12-16) but then again it leaves yellow and blue by the tenacity of up to 21-22 thanks to attacks from the wall and Kaziyski Raphael. The contest lasts the advantages of Trent, which cancels three balls sets (22-24 to 25-25) but then it exploits well set to close the contest on 3-1 (Vissotto uncontrollable). Cuneo is the fifth time since earning the tie-break 33-35 on resolving the dispute with a wall of Sokolov Mastrangelo.
The tie-break is marked by ace Wijsmans and Vissotto; Cuneo uses them to fly at 3-6. Sokolov (attack) and Kaziyski (cambiopalla and two aces) sign the hook on the 8-8. The winning jokes Djuric dig a furrow between the two teams (14-9). Closes an attack Sokolov (15-11).
"Maybe we could close the game before, in four sets, but I think that goes just as well because what we brought home this evening was playing at the highest level - said at the end of the challenge Radostin Stoytchev -. At 2-0 Cuneo has found a way to get in trouble and he did end up answering blow for blow. I am therefore particularly pleased for the reaction shown by the team in the most difficult moment of the match during the tie-break when we were in for 5-8. In that case we have drawn on all our energies, not only physical but also mental, bringing home two very important points. "
From tomorrow the formation of the World Champion, Italy in Europe and will change again before (and ball) starting to think the trip to Poland in 2012 CEV Volleyball Champions League, Thursday, December 22 to 18 hours in Kedzierzyn-Kozle in fact the start of round return of Pool C. In series A1 Sustenium instead return to the pitch until the day of Santo Stefano in Belluno spending Arena.
Following the match race of the tenth round of regular season play tonight at PalaTrento.
Itas Trentino-Diatec Cuneo Bre Banca Lannutti 3-2
(25-20, 25-19, 22-25, 33-35, 15-11)
ITAS DIATEC TRENTINO: Kaziyski 26, 17 Djuric, Raphael 3, 21 Juantorena, Birarelli 8, Stokr 4, Bari (L); Colaci (L), the long, Lanza, 12 Sokolov, Zygadlo. N.e. Burgsthaler. Coach Radostin Stoytchev.
BRE BANK Lannutti: Wijsmans 16, Lucky 3, Vissotto 26, 23 Ngapeth, Mastrangelo 8, 5 Grbic, Henno (L); Baranoviche, Caceres, Patriarch 2, RC 1. N.e. Van Lankvelt and Pieri. Coach Flavio Gulinelli.
REFEREES: Tanasi Noto (Syracuse) and Saltalippi of Perugia.
TIME SET: 26 ', 26', 29 ', 39', 23 '; total 2h 23'.
NOTES: 3,998 spectators for a collection of 41,854 euros. Itas Diatec Trentino walls 14, 13 aces, 15 errors at bat, Action 12 errors, 50% attack, 62% (32%) signal. Bre Banca Lannutti: walls 9, 10 aces, 19 errors at bat, Action 10 errors, 52% attack, 49% (24%) signal. Kaziyski mvp.
Ragazzi e ragazze ? ... lo scrivo anche in italiano: BUON NATALE a tutti/e... ci si rivede il 26 (forse ahah) con commenti vari ?
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1st - usually when they play (and yesterday's match is a blatant example) they ...how can i say? ...si perdono in un bicchier d'acqua... they make a mountain out of a molehill. What i saw yesterday in Roma's players was zero ideas and tons of confusion in their heads and consequently on court!
2nd - they have no bench...especially in crucial positions as setter and opposite. With the sole exception of Cisolla, a player who can change the course of a game (if supported by his team-mates of course), they have no-one who can help the team to save a match when things go amiss.
3rd - they urgently need a valid setter!!! I mean, I don't want to disrespect anyone...but, Boninfante isn't what they need. Okay, I'm not a fan of him (never been), I don't like him as a setter...i think he's a decent player but not an extraordinary one. And if MRoma really wants to vie with the best clubs, like Trento or Macerata, for something important, they need a better setter. So if Giani reads these lines: ehi Giangio, why don't you you give a ring to Valerio and ask him if he can join you and your team next year?? ?
pearl, I totally agree about the setter. About the opposite, for example vs Ravenna Bencz changed the match... I think he is a valid player, last year he was titoular for more than half season (Poey left the team) and did quite good. He is perfect to be a sub imo, but of course Sabbi is still immature so is like having two subs! But if that means giving a huge chance to increase to a young italian player (and an opposite!) full of pontential, I'm in ? I think it's worthy! Or better, it will be ? (I'm crossing my fingers!)
Absolutly different is the setter situation, both aren't young at all so there are no excuse like "ok I know he doesn't play so well some time, but I let him play to grow up"
I would have preferred a young and "grezzo" setter like Uriarte, (or even better Baranowicz or Falaschi) if that is what we got.... But honestly last year with Treviso I apreciate enough Boninfante, expecially for his determination, but now... =S
I also got that Mezzaroma doesn't have any will to spend more for the team: probably we won't hire a MB - and we really need one! - we didn't hire a good setter (but we spoke during the summer with Valerio, Ball, Grbic...), we didn't even look for people like Conte (or De Cecco, but Conte is a better example because he was in Italy the last season), we let Yosifov go, etc etc...
And I won't be surprised if Zaytsev will leave the team next year.
As regards the opposite: i'm not the biggest of Bencz's fans ? I would like to be as clear as possible referring to Sabbi: for me this boy HAS TO play always!! I like him a lot; i think he can be an excellent opposite...but, as you perfectly said, he's still too inexperienced with such level and he should have a more experienced sub to take his place when he has a bad day.
The real problem is the setter: I've already said I don't like Boninfante (as a player of course); but honestly i didn't like Uriarte last year either...I would definetely prefer someone like Baranowicz or Falaschi....obviously Valerio would be the perfect solution!! But, if Mezzaroma has no intention of spending additional money on his team...well, I guess we're talking about nothing (aria fritta, direi ;D )!!!
try whit Saitta?
19 points (78%) 0 errors
4 aces, 2 errors
1 block
BTW, Trento - 8 errors, 12 aces!
Roma lost 17-15 at tie break vs Monza ? But at least Sabbi was named MVP, and we are sure of qualification for 1/8 of the Italian Cup, even if there is a huge difference being 5th or 8th!
Today incredibl, incredible, fantastic rally at 28-27 of San Giustino- Vibo (1 set), I hope somebody recorded it because it was amazing. The commentator said it was the best rally of the 2011-12 Italian Championship so far *.*
Unfortunally San Giustino lost it and the set, but they did incredible digs, and I wasn't surprised to see they won 3-1, they were so determinate!
I watched part of Macerata Sisley, Sisley isn't very interesting, too much Fei-dependet, at least today.
Will you forgive me if I say that I found it and uploaded it on volleyball movies? ?
Giulio Sabbi scored 30 individual points in Monza-Roma!!! WOW...I can't understand why this boy plays so bad each time i watch him and plays great when i don't ?((
ps raylight I added it too.. where did you find it? I had the clip form first hand by a friend that recorded it ? (elisewin form insidevolleyball)
13^ giornata di andata serie A1 maschile Sustenium
Bre Banca Lannutti Cuneo – Casa Modena
Andreoli Latina – Itas Diatec Trentino Volley
Marmi Lanza Verona – Lube Banca Marche Macerata
Sisley Belluno – CMC Ravenna
Tonno Callipo Vibo Valentia – Acqua Paradiso Monza Brianza
Energy Resources San Giustino – Copra Elior Piacenza
M.Roma Volley – Fidia Padova
Cuneo v Modena will be broadcasted by Raisport1. Fantastic! Hope rai's streaming will work 'cause i want to watch this match ? Have no idea of which match will be on sportube. Another interesting match is Vibo-Monza imo.
tomorrow i have a lot of work ?
I can't wait for the highlights!
Trento losing vs Latina was a huge surprise to me, also because Latina wasn't playing well the last matches. Macerata almost risked not to take advantage of that, but eventually they got the first place (finally!), and they are Winter Champions ?
They'll face Roma at 1/8 of Italian Cup. I think that for Rome this is a good thing, at least the trasfert is shorter (and hotter) and we can always hope that it will be a bad serve-day for Macerata ?
Unfortunally I hardly doubt that we will able to offer a nice show vs Macerata, our serve right now is just :SSS Terrible! But we will have an anticipation Satturday the 14th, we will see.
Yesterday Roma lost 3-0 vs Padova playing almost as bad as vs Piacenza. Our serve is simply ridiculous, Zaytsev excluded. Unfortunally also Sabbi yesterday had a terrible day in serve. In attack he started quite bad but later he increased, I wasn't so sure that changing him for Bencz was a great idea, I don't know, Milan played enough well but... For example, of 3 blocks that Rome did (-.-), 2 were made by Sabbi only during the first set.
Because of our hilarious serve and because of Passier our block is a bit a joke (even if we touched a bit).
and lately also in attack we suck a bit ?
Paolucci played instead of Boninfante. He did better than Dante vs Piacenza, but still......
(and i'm surprise... why we have the best league and he worst camera???? >.<)
omg, 16 appreciable action in the first set
handan: i'm a fan of Zaytsev but, trust me, i wouldn't say he's the best mvp of the league so far.
Stokr 11 break point (win-lose 20)
substantiallyJan scored half of his point in breack points phases
I'm not saying that matey didn't get a great match, simply Stokr had impressed me (and not only me if he get the MVP)
Did the block followed Stokr in that match?
and Djuric never touched a single ball, he didn't understand nothing on deCecco gameplay -.-'
And a special mention for Parodi: best player of the last two matches... Now he is playing not simply "well" but "great", actually making the difference. if during the same rally he didn't put the ball down the first chance, he did it the second one. He is also coming back with his serve.
@handan, I agree with pearl, I'm a superfan of Zaytsev but I think he can do more honestly...He is playing well but not too much constantly. Unfortunally Boninfante's sets don't help him=.=
I guess Berruto will have an hard time when he will have to decide who'll be in the starting six...
And even if I'm not a fan of Kovar, I have to admit he is playng defintly better than Maruotti (that ended in bench the last two matches, btw, and that often is around 35% in attack). I think he should be the 4th OH of italian NT... unfortunally he doesn't seem to me to be such attached to the "blue shirt", but... He improved in reception (I'll say he is better than Sava...), he has a very good serve, good block, good attack (may be not the smartes type of attack, but effective)...
Sabbi has a great game and a bad one, a good one and an horrible one... ?
It's a pity when he is not playing so well in attack, because in that case he needs to be changed with Bencz, but he has a better serve and a better block...
Exiga <3
Passier =.=
http://www.dotvolley.it/blog/27148/pallavolo-maschile/volley-maschile-a1-zaytsev-alla-gazzetta-potrei-andar-via.html#comment-4252
Zaytsev might leave Roma 'cause he doesn't think there's a valid project for the team :( If that is true I will be very sorry...but, on the other hand, I can understand this guy who wants to improve and above all wants to win something important :(
Mezzarome doesn't want to invest in it unfortunally... Zaytsev totally deserves an abitious project. And European Cups.
Last week Martino was interviewed in the press room and they asked him some opinions about what he could still improve. He answered he considers himself a volleyball player (as work) and not as an athlete. He thinks to volleyball just for the time he's training or playing a match, so before and after that moments he thinks about how to enjoy with friends. In my opinion he's not changed very much in his mind.
BTW, @champion, of course Zaytsev as sub of Juantorena makes sense to Trento, but defintly not to Ivan! He HAS to be titoular ?
pearl, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him in Russia, but I really hope he'll stay in Italy...
BTW, it seems that Juantorena will stay in Trento, at least for what I read in the newspaper. (I don't remeber which one).
I think he have to hope for Kaizisky to go somewhere else. Honestly I think he would be a more natural replacement for Matey that for Osmany.
Or he has to hope that Savani will leave Macerata, but I guess it won't...
http://www.dotvolley.it/blog/27398/pallavolo-maschile/olimpiadi-londra-2012-marco-meoni-torna-in-azzurro-la-rosea-dice-che.html
Rumours about Meoni as possible second setter for Italy along with Travica.
i think i'm not going to do an highlight video about this match
(and usually the setter can play well some more years then mb or opposite)
@ pearl: nope, only first 20 min, because my poor HDD is full whit ravenna-s.giustino (planning to buy a new HDD to tape more matches)
thx to Piacenza ?
Of course when I can't go to the Palatiziano it happens that we win 3-2 vs Cuneo, last year vs Macerata... How lucky I am XD
But I'm soooo glad we won, because it is Cuneo, because now we will be more confident on us for the match vs Macerata (even if a part of me can't wait to watch Macerata in Italian Cup Final4 in Rome ?), and because in this period at the beginning of the championship we were at 0 points, while now we got 3 points. Little improvments ?
And our win over Cuneo prevent them to get the second place.
Macerata, I now you're tired, but DAMN!!!! That was even a more surprising result that Roma-Cuneo!!
Sulla pagina ufficiale fb dei tifosi di Modena è stato pubblicato un post dei bb che riportava il loro sdegno riguardo alla Coppa Italia, in quanto la lega ha riservato per la final four di Roma solamente 36 biglietti per persone disabili+accompagnatore (quindi effettivamente 18 persone) .Per quanto riguarda i 25€, vorrei poterli pagare io (sono ingressi ridotti) .. intero sono 50€ per una giornata e 80 per due giorni..
Mi sa che il pienone se lo scordano..
Ti rimando al forum di Trentinovolley che come noi, condivide.
http://www.trentinovolley.it/forum/forum/4-tutte-le-discussioni/137219-da-forum-modena-comunicato-bb.html
Also because I can watch only the semifinals I think...
BTW, casamodena, did you read Pasini article about Martino? What do you say? ?
BTW, Trento according to the score outplayed Vibo, and Macerata outplayed Rome. In the first and second sets there was equilibrium till 16ish, then Macerata flow away, while the third was almost a monolouge by Macerata, mostly thanks by Macerata itself, I'll say. There was only a moment when Rome being 4 point under reach -1 (9-8) because Parodi failed an attack and then was blocked, but beside that Macerata (and Parodi too, expept in this two occasions he was supereffective in attack and great in reception) was close to be perfect.
Ah, Savani helped with 5 aces (and a very dangerous run serve).
In Rome I'm still very unsatisfacted by Boninfante.
ps: I have a very technical comment: what a lovely smile Parodi has <3
Well, Cuneo wasn't playing great lately, but still O.O (and at home, with their wonderful public!!)
I wonder if Ngapeth played... I'll check.
Uhm... I guess a semifinal Trento-Cuneo would have been more interesting...
And Modena-Monza are 2-1 17-15
I'm for Monza ? (mostly because of De Cecco!)
and the 4th is... Modena!! from 17-15 to 25-17 in the 4th set O.o
so: Macerata-Modena
Trento-Belluno
I hope there won't be more surprise n the semifinals ?
Here the stats: http://www.legavolley.it/Calendario.asp?Anno=2011&IdCampionato=543 (click on the score)
Savani MVP of Macerata-Roma, with good stats in defence, 5 aces, insane stats in attack ?Actually Parodi was blocked 2 and did 3 errors in attack. But 67%. But why the hell Parodi riceived 23 times and Savani only 13?! I can't understand Roma tactic in serve =.=
Macerata 10 aces (with 14 errors), 5 by Sava, 3 by Parodi (during the dinner I must have lost two of them!), 1 Stankovic, 1 Podrascanin. Many aces on Zaytsev.
But I read that Cuneo played a very low-level match, with no agonism and determination (leggo che hanno giocato in modo spento e svogliato)
The team that was in the Italian Cup the last to year and that is the last winner of this Cup, won't defend it.
I think it is a very big failure for Cuneo.
I saw only partes of the match, but for what I watch it was an intense and fighted match. In the third sets Trento almost always conduct, but Macerata always came back, until the last points of Trento (aces of Juantorena for the 23th and 24th point)
Trento was superb, with everyone (also Brughstaler that went in for Djuric). They did several insane digs and closed few incredible ball in attack. Stokr is probably my MVP (but I didn't watch the whole match...)
Macerata played good but not on his best (while Trento probably played at his best, I'll say, and that is a good point for Macerata): they committed too many mistake in serve (like the double of Trento... Parodi alone did 6 errors!) and probably in general didn't serve that well, and they can be a bit better in block imo, but this is hard to say because it depend a lot also on the other team... And they did few great defense and nice actions too, but didn't dig how is in their skills imo. While Trento saved a lot.
But beside general consideration, the thing Macerata has to complain the most about their match is losing the second 24-26 set after leading 24-21 (or even 20..)! Parodi mistake in serve (one of thousand...) at the match point send Stokr in serve, and he did several good serve in a row. Macerata received quite well but imo Travica did few mistakes, both in lucidity and precision: precision to the spikers (too far from the net) and lucidity about chosing to set to Stankovic that had been defended twice in the previous 10 minutes. In fact he was defened another time (great job of Bari) and then blocked by Brughstaler. Travica could have chose a pipe or a precise and fast sets to the wings... And Trento always followed them for the whole set! They had it in their hands!>.<
Then in the third set it was Macerata tourn to follow Trento, (more than once they were like -4/3 and then again -1) and at 19-21 Omrcen made a mistake in attack (19-22), then Osmany did 2 aces (the first on Parodi, with a bit of luck I think, it seemed to me that the ball touched the net, so it changed a bit the direction but it was very fast so Parodi was just hitten by the ball), and one between Exiga and Parodi (again, and incredible fast serve). Match closed by a bad errors of Parodi in attack. That honestly exept the serve played quite well (not great)beside what it can seem from my words.
Ok, I've done xDDD Sorry for bothering you, I just needed to comment it xD
Fantastic finale second set
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Macerata too clinging to the service and little else.
Trent has made some error, but was very present in the blockl
defense.
http://www.legavolley.it/TabellinoGara.asp?IdGara=22066
The entire team has struggled in reception. Juantorena 4 ace and 11 points for this elected MVP
Score:2-3 (25-20 17-25 25-27 25-23 14-16)
So for the second time in a row three of the first 4 teams lost the game: only Trento kept winning (as always ?
At least Macerata was lucky that Cuneo lost, so they kept the second place. But at the same time Cuneo was lucky that Modena didn't win, so they kept few points of advantages?
Roma won 3-0 vs Vibo, I couldn't go but friends told me it was a veeery boring match, exept for the victory. Good match by Sabbi, 3 aces, 2 blocks, 19 attacks, I'm glad he recovered from the ankle injury?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7NbTYuSK-8&feature=player_embedded
I do not explain how the only change coach can do this!
you'll see that now that it's back in time to resume the shape, Vibo will restart to win.
What impress me of Piacenza is their reverse in terms of positive results!
Macerata ouplayed Cuneo for two sets, then Cuneo did the same for the next two. In the tie break Cuneo started a bit better, then was odd, then Cuneo did better. Macerata was close to a nice come back: from 11-14-->13-14, with ace of Parodi), then Parodi served out =.= I knew that, damn! Also during the tie break he did an ace (I think for the first advantage of Macerata since the second set, 7-6) and then a mistake, so typical...
Great Ngapeth imo, in general very confident Cuneo from the third set exept for Wjisman.
Macerata did many mistakes and played badly in attack, but they kept defending well and fight almost always imo. Great defense from both.
Kjeldhor, it was balanced eventually, but in general that match was everything but balanced. exept in the middle of the tie break, there were always many points between the two teams, sometimes with Macerata leading (first two sets), sometimes with Cuneo leading (third and fourth sets, plus mostly of the tie break)
BTW, there was a very nice moment during the match: after the end of the action Mastro (I didn't see it very well) hitted Travica with the ball, and while Travica was lieing (?) down, Mastro run in Macerata court, hugged Travica while he was still lieing on the floor, then helped him to stand up and hugged him again very friendly. It was really sweet ? He also wrote a public excuse on twitter ?
What truly happned is:
- there weren't "striscioni" for Simone (for what I could see)
- when he was serving, they whistled him like hell (but I didn't watch the beginning, when the spiker presents the players)
- they wrote a huge "striscione" for Giuliani: Giuliani good coach, but without face and honor. Quite nasty, don't you think? Considering that he is the coach that lead Cuneo at the first scudetto (at his first year!), at the CEVcup, at the Supercup, at the Italian Cup, plus 2 finals (Italian Cup and Scudetto) and 1/4 of CL...
position - team - (points)
1. Trento (47)
2. Macerata (39)
3. Cuneo (39 - whit less victories then Macerata)
4. Modena (35)
5. Monza (31)
6. Belluno (29)
7. Verona (25)
8. Roma (24)
9. Latina (23)
10. Piacenza (23 - whit less victories then Latina)
11. Vibo (20)
12. Padova (18)
13. San Giustino (16)
14. Ravenna (9)
What do you think?
You will see the spectacle seen until now?
That stimuli will have a team without objectives?
As will be a match between a great and a small?
@marchst scusa se rispondo a domanda con domanda, ma cosa vuoi , sono senza parole..
PS. domani sera fate piano, per favore ?
@pearl in poche parole si vuole bloccare le retrocessioni per almeno tre anni aumentando il numero delle squadre dalle attuali 14 a 16 ,18 ,20 ,il problema di fondo è ...quali stimoli avranno le squadre senza obiettivi e di conseguenza che campionato ci propineranno?
Grbic ha detto (non marchst): W lo sport, la competizione sportiva e le persone/società serie, che sanno fare i passi in base alle proprie gambe, DA SOLI.
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